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Build date frozen in UA string for SM 2.14.1 and later

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Post Posted May 8th, 2012, 2:41 pm

James wrote:The build ID date in UA has been a bug and not a feature all this time ???

All a question of perspective... :-p

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Post Posted May 9th, 2012, 4:08 am

A bug to users is a feature to Microsoft.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2012, 3:08 pm

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Post Posted May 10th, 2012, 6:29 am

:lol:.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted May 26th, 2012, 6:59 am

rsx11m wrote:(SM-specific) bugs related to this discussion:
  • Bug 752797 Build ID absent from about: page (no longer seen in UA string now);
Patch by ewong has been approved and should land on trunk soon. Thus, at least there will be one place again where the build date can be obtained from without Debug&QA installed...

Edit: Just checked in, should be effective with the next 2.12a1 nightly build.

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Post Posted June 4th, 2012, 9:52 am

Dão has posted a backout-patch for aurora, so this may not be allowed to propagate into the next channel with the merge scheduled for today (i.e., Gecko/<version> stays effective on 2.13a1 trunk builds only whereas the 2.12a2 nightly builds should revert to Gecko/<date> for the time being).

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Post Posted June 25th, 2012, 6:05 pm

rsx11m wrote:Not quite unexpectedly, the patch to also remove the patch level from the Firefox token has been approved as well, which now makes it "Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.12a1"

This change/reduction is effective now in the 2.13a1 nightly builds, but for the Firefox token only at this time.

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Post Posted September 22nd, 2012, 8:37 am

This seems to be supposed to "stick" now for Gecko/17.0 = SeaMonkey/2.14, remaining incompatibility cases are covered by site-specific overrides (bug 792054, though such hard-coded spoofing is disputed there). Reopened has been bug 588913 to remove the "rv:..." portion from the UA comment, after it has been frozen for a while per bug 729089 to allow web sites to adjust accordingly.

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Post Posted September 23rd, 2012, 5:55 am

Someone might want to tell the sites about these changes.

It isn't only bank sites that don't work. I informed the site, but so far it still doesn't work without the date, and the RSS feed is the same in SeaMonkey Mail, and Thundrbird.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780393

I guess if my assumption is wrong I will reopen that bug.
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Post Posted September 24th, 2012, 10:55 am

(IMO if it works with Gecko/20120924, & it does, & does not with Gecko/17.0, & it does not, then it is Tech Evangelism.)
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Post Posted September 24th, 2012, 4:34 pm

Agreed and so commented on the bug report. I'm not sure where the threshold is for the Tech Evangelism people to step in, that site may not be considered as "important" as the banking sites in question for the other bug...

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Post Posted October 12th, 2012, 9:29 am

I've just confirmed the bug now that Gecko/<version> has reached the beta channel (i.e., expect it to land with the next release due in mid November).

Thus, if anybody else sees pages that displayed properly in a prior beta but no longer in an upcoming 2.14 beta, and switching Gecko/<version> back to Gecko/<date> using the general.useragent.override pref, please open a new bug for tech evangelism and make it block 588909 (if you have the respective permissions in bugzilla).

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Post Posted November 27th, 2012, 2:02 pm

Now, this has shipped with Gecko 17.0 (i.e., SeaMonkey 2.14) as we know, but today it was apparently decided to back this out from all branches, including release, thus there will be a Gecko 17.0.1 respin (SM 2.14.1) with the Gecko build date restored in the UA string. :shock:

Bug 815743 is tracking this.

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Post Posted November 27th, 2012, 2:27 pm

Heh.
Cry.
or
Cry.
Heh.
take your choice

Suppose we'll have the actual build date & FF will have that "magic" date (20100101).

Code: Select all
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:19.0) Gecko/19.0 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:19.0) Gecko/20121126 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16

Is that the way it is - at the moment?
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball CopyURL+ FetchTextURL FlashGot NoScript

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Post Posted November 27th, 2012, 2:56 pm

therube wrote:Suppose we'll have the actual build date & FF will have that "magic" date (20100101).

You should see the change with tomorrow's nightly builds, but I guess that's how it will be (i.e., just backing out the related changes, thus restoring the old UA).

Again, that's on all branches, thus no difference in channels and all back to date rather than version.

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