Seamonkey Project - Proposed Alternative Name Archive.
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What is it?
Beonex? Monolith? Heliodore? StarDrake? Skythian? Moz something? Something Zilla?
I can't stand the waiting. This is like standing in a long queue.
No matter what the final name will be, I'll be happy with it. Just please... not Seamonkey.
Probably they don't want users to start whining why their own proposals weren't selected. If the name is announced before it's finally put in use, people will use their veto and start screaming in panic because of an upcoming branding disaster (or something). I guess there are some here who are willing to pick a little fight if their beloved name were abandoned...
Beonex? Monolith? Heliodore? StarDrake? Skythian? Moz something? Something Zilla?
I can't stand the waiting. This is like standing in a long queue.
No matter what the final name will be, I'll be happy with it. Just please... not Seamonkey.
johann_p wrote:KaiRo wrote: Until we get clearance from their lawers, we can't and won't announce the naming decision, though it's been made. Please be patient.
Out of curiosity: why can't and won't you announce the name until then? What is the reason?
Probably they don't want users to start whining why their own proposals weren't selected. If the name is announced before it's finally put in use, people will use their veto and start screaming in panic because of an upcoming branding disaster (or something). I guess there are some here who are willing to pick a little fight if their beloved name were abandoned...
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johann_p wrote:KaiRo wrote: Until we get clearance from their lawers, we can't and won't announce the naming decision, though it's been made. Please be patient.
Out of curiosity: why can't and won't you announce the name until then? What is the reason?
For once, I've agreed it with MoFo, and as they are spending money on registering our trademark, I tend to accept their wishes on that
Additionally, suppose someone doesn't like it and applies for the trademark before MoFo lawyers can. Or someone goes out and registers any domain names containing that name and then has the argument of "it wasn't trademarked, I didn't know it would be secured" - and quite some other possibilites along those lines.
They told me it's easier for their legal staff to do this all without us touting it out already. And we really want to make it as easy for them as possible, as we're happy they're helping us.
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KaiRo wrote:They told me it's easier for their legal staff to do this all without us touting it out already. And we really want to make it as easy for them as possible, as we're happy they're helping us.
Very good point, KaiRo. Very prudent as well. I am also very glad to hear how much MoFo is helping out - both financially and knowledge wise.
I am willing to wait to find out if it means not having to change the name a time or two. Remember all, patience is a virtue...
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BenoitRen wrote:1.0? Great. Now people will look down on it and say it's an immature product...
Right. Just as all those people who don't use Firefox and/or Thunderbird because they're so immature that they still have a "1.0" version number. And just the same as they didn't use OpenOffice when it was 1.0 (and, well, it's even only 1.1.x now). And just as they don't use countless 0.x-versioned apps (e.g. almost every Linux user has been using xine or mplayer for a while, some even for years, and they both went 1.0 only a short time ago).
Actually, I don't expect that in the decision process between Firefox 1.1 and our 1.0 product the decision will be for Firefox just because of the version number. That's unrealistic to say the least.
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Anyhow, I expect the version numbers to be inflated like Firefox's, e.g.:
Firefox 1.0 = Gecko 1.7.5
Firefox 1.1 = Gecko 1.8 = Seamonkey 1.0
Firefox 1.5 = Gecko 1.9 = Seamonkey 1.5*
Firefox 2.0 = Gecko 2.0 = Seamonkey 2.0* = "Mozilla 2.0"
It'd make sense for the version numbers to match Firefox's and/or Gecko's as much as possible.
(Note that the starred version numbers are just me making stuff up.)
Firefox 1.0 = Gecko 1.7.5
Firefox 1.1 = Gecko 1.8 = Seamonkey 1.0
Firefox 1.5 = Gecko 1.9 = Seamonkey 1.5*
Firefox 2.0 = Gecko 2.0 = Seamonkey 2.0* = "Mozilla 2.0"
It'd make sense for the version numbers to match Firefox's and/or Gecko's as much as possible.
(Note that the starred version numbers are just me making stuff up.)
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MozaLiza
How about '<b>MozaLiza</b>' ?
It's from a famous painting 'Mona Liza' by Leonard da Vinci
and also contains 'Moz + Lizard'.
It's from a famous painting 'Mona Liza' by Leonard da Vinci
and also contains 'Moz + Lizard'.
- KaiRo
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Greg K Nicholson wrote:Anyhow, I expect the version numbers to be inflated like Firefox's
Actually, that's something we're thinking of. We're not completely sure yet if we want 2.0 for the toolkit/xulrunner-based version or the Gecko-2.0-based version, but they might just happen to be the same
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KaiRo wrote:Today, we came to a decision, the whole council and those core developers agree on the name we decided upon. There's one open issue though: We want the name to get registered as a US trademark, so we forwarded that name to Mozilla Foundation, who will do the trademark registering process for us. Until we get clearance from their lawyers, we can't and won't announce the naming decision, though it's been made. Please be patient.
Given, the quirkiness of the trademark process at times, might it not have been wiser to have also forwarded to MoFo the second choice and possibly the third choice so that in the event that the first choice gets nixed by the lawyers, it doesn’t take so long for a back-up choice to be approved, if needed?
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I am not in the least bit surprised that three pages after this thread has been made obsolete, two people are still suggesting names, one has decided he has a better idea than MoFo and BenoitRen is still whining.
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I guess there are some here who are willing to pick a little fight if their beloved name were abandoned...
There are some people here (self sadly included) who could pick a fight in an empty room. Welcome to the Interweb.
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