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Post Posted July 7th, 2015, 6:23 pm

The Mobile UA string thing already has a patch.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169772
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Post Posted July 7th, 2015, 6:29 pm

(from viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2945765 )
If they actually do get rid of XUL/XBL from Firefox will SeaMonkey have to follow suit?
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!

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Post Posted July 7th, 2015, 10:10 pm

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ABP and Greasemonkey (I still have no idea why they can't integrate userscripts natively in the browser like Chrome can) come to mind


maybe, because it needs a lot of work and time to implement such feature. and since there is already an addon which does this job very well, they dont have to do it.
Also, Chrome does have native support for userscripts, but it's not very good and lacks configuration.
That's why the excellent Tampermonkey addon, essentially GM for Chrome, is used most of the time for this kind of work.

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Post Posted July 7th, 2015, 11:10 pm

KilliK wrote:
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ABP and Greasemonkey (I still have no idea why they can't integrate userscripts natively in the browser like Chrome can) come to mind


maybe, because it needs a lot of work and time to implement such feature. and since there is already an addon which does this job very well, they dont have to do it.
Also, Chrome does have native support for userscripts, but it's not very good and lacks configuration.
That's why the excellent Tampermonkey addon, essentially GM for Chrome, is used most of the time for this kind of work.


I was wondering why I had installed Tampermonkey if it supported natively.

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Post Posted July 8th, 2015, 11:01 am

May be I missed something somewhere (very likely), but what is this "improved Private Browsing mode" Dave Camp was talking about in regards to the Uniquely Firefox Pillar in his email?

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Post Posted July 8th, 2015, 3:51 pm

ffextensionguru wrote:May be I missed something somewhere (very likely), but what is this "improved Private Browsing mode" Dave Camp was talking about in regards to the Uniquely Firefox Pillar in his email?

Likely involves enabling tracking protection features in PB mode among other things.

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Post Posted July 8th, 2015, 9:58 pm

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ffextensionguru wrote:May be I missed something somewhere (very likely), but what is this "improved Private Browsing mode" Dave Camp was talking about in regards to the Uniquely Firefox Pillar in his email?

Likely involves enabling tracking protection features in PB mode among other things.

Hmm...here I would have thought the 'Do Not Track' was global no matter if you were in normal or private browsing. Or are we talking about two different things?

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Post Posted July 8th, 2015, 10:06 pm

"Do Not Track" really only indicates your wish that the site doesn't track you while you visit. Tracking Protection is a feature that actively blocks tracking scripts while you browse.

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Post Posted July 9th, 2015, 7:31 am

barbaz wrote:(from viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2945765 )
If they actually do get rid of XUL/XBL from Firefox will SeaMonkey have to follow suit?

Too early to tell, and everything is still in the conceptual phase as it seems. Patrick is certainly correct that basically everything Mozilla right now depends on XUL and XBL bindings (same for XPCOM, etc.). Like add-on developers, removing those entirely would equally affect SeaMonkey and Thunderbird, along with Lightning, and any other application currently built on Gecko. Options may include a major rewrite of the UI (and possibly backend code) or continuing the affected Gecko/Toolkit core code in comm-central, but given the lack of specifics and any roadmap, going beyond that assessment would be pure speculation.

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Post Posted July 9th, 2015, 8:59 pm

KWierso wrote:"Do Not Track" really only indicates your wish that the site doesn't track you while you visit. Tracking Protection is a feature that actively blocks tracking scripts while you browse.


Ah okay...thank you for the clarification that make sense now.

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Post Posted July 9th, 2015, 9:09 pm

KWierso wrote:"Do Not Track" really only indicates your wish that the site doesn't track you while you visit. Tracking Protection is a feature that actively blocks tracking scripts while you browse.


This should be amusing.
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Post Posted July 13th, 2015, 5:44 pm

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Post Posted July 13th, 2015, 6:26 pm

yet another brave new world blog wrote:Get rid of the deprecated (XUL) bits of Gecko in a finite time.


Even Mozilla would be hard pressed not to reach this goal.....
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Post Posted July 13th, 2015, 7:06 pm

IMO i dunno why Mozilla dont just fork Firefox into a whole new Browser Name rather than just get rid of gecko an slide servo in. , for example they could have 2 Browsers, the New one that had Servo in it, call it something else

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Post Posted July 13th, 2015, 7:48 pm

-Arch- wrote:IMO i dunno why Mozilla dont just fork Firefox into a whole new Browser Name rather than just get rid of gecko an slide servo in. , for example they could have 2 Browsers, the New one that had Servo in it, call it something else


Because Servo is already a thing and performs better than Gecko already. I have a feeling that when it is done, it won't be called "Firefox".
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