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Post Posted December 15th, 2015, 6:21 pm

This could be the end of the 'old' Profile Manager - or maybe not...

New 'about' command as noted in the Subject about:profiles in latest hourly, should be in tomorrow's Nightly.

info about change(s): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179129 <--Would be nice to have about:profiles

This patch met with some resistance - so who knows where this is really going, and for how long.

EDIT: This may have already replaced the old 'Profile Manager'
Entering the firefox.exe -p from the windows Search box now opens the about:profiles page rather the old dialog box...
I guess further testing will be needed to make sure we don't lose a valuable troubleshooting aid, in creating 'test/new/throw-away' Profiles

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Post Posted December 15th, 2015, 6:57 pm

Clicking on 'Create a new profile' doesn't do anything for me. Perhaps this is just the front end?
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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 5:51 am

streetwolf wrote:Clicking on 'Create a new profile' doesn't do anything for me. Perhaps this is just the front end?



WFM, maybe one of your 'blocking' addons stopping the action ?

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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 6:05 am

darkred wrote:Since yesterday where the patches for replacing Profile Manager with about:profiles have landed
and bugs 1179129 - Would be nice to have about:profiles and 1232629 - Replace ProfileManager with about:profiles are marked as FIXED (I'm using inbound),
the UI is like this:
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As you may see, there's no button to remove/rename a profile and the Create a profile has no functionality.
I guess it's still a work in progress
Is there a bug in bugzilla to check on this progress? I couldn't find any

TheVisitor wrote:Create New Profile = WFM perhaps you have blocking addons ? NoScript/Adblock etc ?

I'm on inbound. I only have Greasemonkey 2015.11.20.nightly and AdBlock Plus 2.7.
But, disabling them both,
and even launching Firefox via
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C:\Program Files\Nightly\firefox.exe" -no-remote -profilemanager

I get the same interface with above.
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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 6:07 am

@Darkred - perhaps something amiss with the x64 bit builds - I'm on latest m-c win32 builds, on win7

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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 6:47 am

TheVisitor wrote:@Darkred - perhaps something amiss with the x64 bit builds - I'm on latest m-c win32 builds, on win7

Yes, so I just filed but 1233016 - (about:profiles) in latest inbound x64 the 'Create a New Profile' button has no functionality and there's no 'Rename' button
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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 6:50 am

I really enjoy reading comments like this in Bug reports - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 179129#c18

bsmedberg - the Profile code owner has been "threatening" to remove Profiles from Firefox for over ten years now and every 5 years or so another Profiles related project gets started. Last time it was the Profile Manager XUL Runner application and now it is about:profiles and now he is talking about about:profiles as an extension rather than "in-tree".

Back in April I quit doing any testing of builds - new PC and I decided not to install anything except for release versions - but this about:profiles does interest me or at least make me curious about it.


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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 11:26 am

How does someone who has a bad/corrupted profile (continuous crash on startup) open the profile manager with about:profiles? Is there any way to simulate this scenario and see whether firefox.exe -p works?

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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 11:32 am

calbu wrote:How does someone who has a bad/corrupted profile (continuous crash on startup) open the profile manager with about:profiles? Is there any way to simulate this scenario and see whether firefox.exe -p works?

I suspect they have not thought through the elimination of the stand-alone profile manager as they should before making such a major change. [-(
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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 3:49 pm

When I entered about:profiles in the address bar, Nightly indicated I was using my default profile, which is the profile I use for Beta versions.

I start Nightly form a desktop launcher using
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~/Apps/fxnightly/firefox -p nightly
telling Nightly to start with my nightly profile.

Troubleshooting Information > Open Directory opens my nightly profile.

When I tried just
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~/Apps/fxnightly/firefox -p
about:profiles opened, and the only choice I had was my release profile for Firefox 42.0 (Linux Mint hasn't updated yet).

I also have a new completely empty profile in my .mozilla/firefox folder called euvxs63f.default-1447703419745

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Post Posted December 16th, 2015, 6:43 pm

calbu wrote:How does someone who has a bad/corrupted profile (continuous crash on startup) open the profile manager with about:profiles? Is there any way to simulate this scenario and see whether firefox.exe -p works?


When I enter about:profiles I get an error indicating address isn't valid.

When I enter about:about (listing of about: options) I do NOT see about:profiles as an option - suggests it is not available at this time. Perhaps this is why you are seeing a crash.
EDIT: shouldnt be the case - I just entered Firefox about:profiles and it attempted to open the page but displayed the error message address isn't valid.

If you are trying to get a copy to run, try renaming your prefs.js file in your daily profile to something like prefs.ren and attempt to restart your browser.
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Post Posted December 17th, 2015, 6:58 am

WildcatRay wrote:
calbu wrote:How does someone who has a bad/corrupted profile (continuous crash on startup) open the profile manager with about:profiles? Is there any way to simulate this scenario and see whether firefox.exe -p works?

I suspect they have not thought through the elimination of the stand-alone profile manager as they should before making such a major change. [-(


My guess is that someone started working on that new "feature" based upon comments made in a meeting that the Profile code owner didn't attend or wasn't listening to the comments about it [like an over-my-dead-body avoidance of a side discussion]. I read the full Bug report and this comment - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 179129#c25 - has me wondering what was discussed outside of the Bug report via email or a meeting. bsmedberg "disappeared" before that and didn't make any further comments afterwards. And with out him I don't think this "feature" will go very far. Over the years I have gotten the idea that the "code owner" has the "first right of refusal" over "their" code.
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Post Posted December 17th, 2015, 9:00 am

(Just to note, this also breaks SeaMonkey, Nightly, SeaMonkey 2.43a1.)
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Post Posted December 17th, 2015, 9:24 am

Ummmm, why is a profile manager necessary? Why not just rename or delete the current one? As soon as you open Fx, it generates a new one.
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Post Posted December 17th, 2015, 9:36 am

the-edmeister wrote:I really enjoy reading comments like this in Bug reports - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 179129#c18

bsmedberg - the Profile code owner has been "threatening" to remove Profiles from Firefox for over ten years now and every 5 years or so another Profiles related project gets started. Last time it was the Profile Manager XUL Runner application and now it is about:profiles and now he is talking about about:profiles as an extension rather than "in-tree".

Back in April I quit doing any testing of builds - new PC and I decided not to install anything except for release versions - but this about:profiles does interest me or at least make me curious about it.


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I don't really understand bsmedberg's comment there. It sounds like he wants to get rid of the profile manager and about:profiles. But all I read is that one comment out of context, so I'm probably not seeing the big picture.

I find profiles essential for testing and debugging extensions. Is there another way to test them in a virgin environment?

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