DAC324 wrote:patrickjdempsey wrote:And I cannot see any possible advantage in people coming here to complain about something that was coded a year ago by people who aren't us.
See the discussions in
bug 1119250. There seems to be no really good place where you can place user feedback which is then really taken into account by decision makers.
1. There seem to be almost only UI developers and no developers for other things in Firefox. Printing is broken since Firefox was introduced, and nobody is going to fix it. Just an example. But the UI, on the other hand, is changed with almost every major update.
2. As discussed: No possibility for Joe User to provide any feedback about development decisions. You either will have to accept what Mozilla has decided or avoid using Firefox.
In our particular case, it is not understandable why browser.search.showOneOffButtons was removed. There are still a lot of users, including me, who are familiar and satisfied with the old search bar.
I do not comprehend why I now have to install two add-ons and a user script to restore functionality which was removed without any need.
Kind regards,
DAC324
Bugzilla ain't for "discussion" or personal comments!
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=etiquette.html
As far as letting the Mozilla developers know how you feel via Bug reports goes, IMO the more "comments" that are posted the less chance the Mozilla developers will even consider the logical suggestions or points that users bring up; the logical suggestions may be getting "drowned out" by the whiners. Bugzilla reports aren't for pointless personal comments,it is intended for constructive and useful suggestions before the Status becomes Verified Fixed. After that if a true fault is found with the "fix" the correct action is to file another Bug labeled as a "Regression" and citing the original,"fixed" Bug report,
Overall, the time to make suggestions is while the Bug is in the process of being "fixed" - which usually happens in the Nightly channel, but "tweaks" may be made in the Developer Edition and Beta channels, too. By the time it hits Release, there is little chance of anything being done unless there a major regression "slipped thru the cracks". If you aren't "testing" the Nightly version you will miss being part of the "discussion" and "you don't get a say" it what's going on.
1. IMO, printing was never "right" from the day Mozilla started building Phoenix back in 2002 - long before this browser was called "Firefox". It is based on the original Netscape code that was written back in 1994 and hasn't been changed much in the last 22 years. I don't think there is anyone still associated with Mozilla development that really knows much about the print code in Firefox. IMO, anytime printing has been "enhanced" or they try to "fix" anything, they manage to "dick it up". A "Print" button that opens Print Preview first? And then when the user tries to "Print - a selection" of text, the "selection" is lost when going thru the Print Preview window. And one of the "basics" that every other browser that I have ever used has been missing since "day one" in Phoenix; there is no contextual menu item for "Print"! On the positive side of Mozilla doing nothing, "we" know its faults and have learned to live with them; no unexpected surprises from developers who don't know what the hell they are doing.
2. There's a menu item in the Help menu in every version of Firefox going back a good number of years that says
Submit Feedback ... - that is how to provide feedback to Mozilla. Just let them know which version your "feedback" pertains to, especially when it concerns a pre-release version.That is how to make your opinion known to Mozilla.
As far as the
browser.search.showOneOffButtons pref goes, that was introduced in Firefox 34 (December 1, 2014) - 9 versions before it was removed. And the speculation around here about that pref probably being a temporary pref was mentioned and discussed repeatedly in a number of threads, starting long before Firefox 34 was released and continues to this day. Hell, I alone probably mentioned that a few dozen times in the last year. And as always, if you don't like something in Firefox, look for an add-on to make it how you want it; as it is with features the user considers "missing", use an add-on to get it in your Firefox. Many of us expected that pref to be around for like 3 or 4 versions and were surprised that Mozilla kept it around so long. I switched my primary browser to the Firefox 38 ESR version weeks before Firefox 43 was released in Dec; but I had installed it many months prior because I was anticipating the loss of that pref.
Ed
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Mine has wandered off and I'm out looking for it.