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Post Posted December 22nd, 2016, 1:32 pm

2.46 Running Like a Dog

XP SP3
SeaMonkey 2.46
Intel e4300
2 GB RAM

Yes XP.
Yes only 2 GB RAM.
Yes a dated computer.

SeaMonkey RAM usage, 1.5 GB.

Yes I do use a LOT of windows/tabs, opened from Session Restore on startup.

2.40 ran fine (within its limits).
2.46, so far does not.

Yes I can (over) push 2.40 to where it ran poorly, but 2.46 runs poorly virtually out of the box.

I'm seeing a lot of this:

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Error: uncaught exception: out of memory


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Error: NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY: Component returned failure code: 0x8007000e (NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY) [nsIScriptableUnicodeConverter.convertToInputStream]
Source File: resource://gre/components/nsSessionStore.js
Line: 3844



Started "essentially" with a new Profile.
Well, actually I did start with a new Profile.

Made a few tweaks that I would typically do; load tabs on demand, remove the search bar, disable all Plugins except for Flash (set to Ask) & Adobe Reader (set to Ask) - minor stuff like that.

Closed & reopened the browser a few times.

Then...

From 2.40 copied /bookmarkbackups/, userChrome.css, userContent.css, & places.sqlite.

Closed & reopened the browser a few times.

Then I added NoScript, 2.9.5.2.

Closed & reopened the browser a few times.

Then... (the killer), sessionstore.json (2,605,460).

Started, loading from Session Store.
Seemed to do that fine.
Memory, while probably a bit higher then 2.40, within reason of what I would expect its "growth" to be. Seemed fine. Then I started opening a few sites, & within a short period of time, I'm hitting LONG delays with most every action.

Add uBlock Origin into the picture.
Restart.
Same.

Revert back to NoScript 2.0.14.
Restart.
Same.

And at the end (having now closed that Profile, & opened a different one), I was running into "black" too - parts of the browser (status bar) were black, part of the location bar, some other places too, were just, black.

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I don't think its a graphics issue.
(You simply don't get much better then NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 ;-).)


Oink, oink?


Thinking about the only way out of this is to ditch my sessionstore.json, which (while probably not a bad thing) would suck.

(And then after doing that, I'd have to see just what else I run into...)



(Sucks that so much is intertwined [places.sqlite] or in a not readily "readable" format [sessionstore.json, much less those .lz4 files], that one cannot [rather easily] "clean up" or pick & choose [as in to pick more meaningful data, leaving out the cruft...]...)
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therube

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Post Posted December 22nd, 2016, 2:08 pm

There was a bug (FF), something relating to "continual" writes to sessionstore.js (& in particular relating to SSD drives)...


Edit:
This -> viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3024054 & https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1304389.
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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 7:26 am

2.46 Running Like a Dog ...

    :-k Maybe, you should change the title:
    SeaMonkey running like a dog, on my insecure and outdated (EOL) Winbugs XP :-"
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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 7:50 am

Should I NOT install 2.46 on an XP PC that I occasionally use?

Thanks!
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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 9:07 am

My browser usage (session restore, tabs, windows, ...) is, er, most likely WAY higher then a "normal" user ;-), so what I see, pushing things to their limits, others most likely will never run into.

If you're living on the "edge", then SeaMonkey 2.46 (& FF 50 for that matter too) will likely perform, react, worse then earlier browser versions (SeaMonkey 2.40 or below).

If you're in the "average" group, I doubt you'll see any problem.

Backup, install & test, then you will know.


(And yes, I'm quite aware of all XP's "insecurities".
[Said as I post from XP, currently.])
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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 9:42 am

@Peter Creasey: 2.46 works fine here - better than many releases, actually. I just tried it out, with my normal profile, on a Windows XP machine, and I didn't see any problem.

If you're concerned about it, just back up your profile before upgrading. Completely quit SeaMonkey, then copy C:\Documents and Settings\<you>\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey someplace else.
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!

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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 11:07 am

How to Ask Questions The Smart Way - How to Report Bugs Effectively ;)
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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 2:51 pm

2.46 Running Like a Dog

Greyhound ?
#KeepFightingMichael

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Post Posted December 23rd, 2016, 5:36 pm

Peter Creasey wrote:Should I NOT install 2.46 on an XP PC that I occasionally use?

Thanks!

It's fine.

Look at my User Agent string at the bottom of this post - this is SM 2.46 running fine on XP with 1 GB of RAM.
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Post Posted December 24th, 2016, 7:21 am

Thanks, guys!

I've never looked into SeaMonkey backup. I just wait until a few days until each release "mellows", then hold my breath.
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Post Posted January 3rd, 2017, 7:36 pm

Since I've updated to 2.46, I've noticed SM consumes more CPU cycles and in general seems slower than 2.40. I've crashed twice (lock-ups) already. FWIW. Win7, AMD quad-core, 16GB, SSD.

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Post Posted January 4th, 2017, 12:29 am

SeaMonkey 2.46 has been rather responsive and stable for me on 64-bit Linux.

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Post Posted January 4th, 2017, 3:16 am

Overall I find the latest SeaMonkey versions even faster. I noticed a speed boost around 2.42 and again with 2.48. But just subjective data and with a locally compiled x64 Windows build using -O2 for optimization (Adrian uses this option too).

The biggest problem seems to be that js on websites seems to become more sh*tty by the day. And with SeaMonkey picking up the latest Gecko fixes enabling new features and websites using them it goes downhill. For Firefox e10s is supposed to solve this but actually most of the time when I test Firefox I find it even slower than SeaMonkey for overall use. YMMV

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Post Posted January 4th, 2017, 12:31 pm

(Other then browser start up speed [of which older is better], I have never noticed any "speed" differences between any browser versions.)
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Post Posted January 4th, 2017, 1:21 pm

Justinh wrote:Since I've updated to 2.46, I've noticed SM consumes more CPU cycles and in general seems slower than 2.40. I've crashed twice (lock-ups) already. FWIW. Win7, AMD quad-core, 16GB, SSD.

What happens in SafeMode? - http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode

What extensions/themes are you using?
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