Where is the address bar???

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BASER
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Where is the address bar???

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There is no menu to bring it back whatsoever and even reinstalling SeaMonkey didn't change anything.
Congratulations to the developers for this unbelievable bug.


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Re: Where is the address bar???

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What version of SeaMonkey are you using? Because if you are using the current release version, which is 2.46, I think you may have overlooked something; like menu path View->Show/Hide->Menu Bar.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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In windows press Alt -> a -> z -> n
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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Ι edited the initial post to add the screenshot which I forgot.
The version is the latest one 2.46.

@hardys
That Alt -> a -> z -> n doesn't work.

This is certainly a bug.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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OK, with Alt+a I think, the menu appeared, but not the address bar.
I'm trying now to figure out how to make it appear.

EDIT: Show/hide navigation toolbar, done. Thanks.

Still, reappearing the menu+address bar, if you accidentally hit that shortcut combination and hide it as I did, cannot be done if you don't know the shortcut.
That's a serious usability bug.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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Try Alt -> a -> z -> m
German version of Seamonkey, maybe different in other language.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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I figured out that (in the English version) you have to hold Alt down, then
for menu strike v, w, e sequentially, and
for navigation bar v, w, n sequentially.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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Good to see, it works now :D
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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F10 should also show the menu bar.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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BASER wrote:This is certainly a bug.
The SM 2.46 has been out for months and you have been the first to claim a missing Location bar as a bug with 2.46
BASER wrote:OK, with Alt+a I think, the menu appeared, but not the address bar.
I'm trying now to figure out how to make it appear.

EDIT: Show/hide navigation toolbar, done. Thanks.

Still, reappearing the menu+address bar, if you accidentally hit that shortcut combination and hide it as I did, cannot be done if you don't know the shortcut.
That's a serious usability bug.
Besides using keyboard shortcuts you can also try right-click on the bars and check any bars that are uncheacked or look in Customize when something goes missing.
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BASER wrote:.... Congratulations to the developers for this unbelievable bug.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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ElTxolo wrote:
BASER wrote:.... Congratulations to the developers for this unbelievable bug.
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James wrote:
BASER wrote:This is certainly a bug.
The SM 2.46 has been out for months and you have been the first to claim a missing Location bar as a bug with 2.46
Do I win anything? :mrgreen:

James wrote:
BASER wrote:Still, reappearing the menu+address bar, if you accidentally hit that shortcut combination and hide it as I did, cannot be done if you don't know the shortcut.
That's a serious usability bug.
Besides using keyboard shortcuts you can also try right-click on the the bars and check any bars that are uncheacked or look in Customize when something goes missing.
Thanks, my point though was not only for my case, but for the obvious usability bug:
How many users do you thing that will guess that they have to right-click on that tiny area of 10pixels width on the left?
Left-click is obvious due to the arrow, but NOT right-click.
An experienced user expects a right click on the toolbars themselves but still, he won't find the option to reappear the hidden toolbars!
That's the least SeaMonkey developers should do. Still, I consider a left-click option a must for inexperienced users.


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Re: Where is the address bar???

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BASER wrote:An experienced user expects a right click on the toolbars themselves but still, he won't find the option to reappear the hidden toolbars!
When in hole stop digging.

Right clicking on the visible toolbars to bring up the toolbar option dialog box is already precisely what happens, both for experienced and inexperienced users alike.

Incidentally, 50% of Internet browser users are not 'he'. Guess why.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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Frank Lion wrote:
BASER wrote:An experienced user expects a right click on the toolbars themselves but still, he won't find the option to reappear the hidden toolbars!
When in hole stop digging.

Right clicking on the visible toolbars to bring up the toolbar option dialog box is already precisely what happens, both for experienced and inexperienced users alike.
No it doesn't, unless you have ESP abilities to guess that you have to right-click specifically in that tiny area on the left,
otherwise if you right-click in the huge empty space on the bar that takes the whole window length in front of your face, you'll only get this:

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Frank Lion wrote:Incidentally, 50% of Internet browser users are not 'he'. Guess why.
And 50% of Internet browser users are not 'she'. Guess why.
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Re: Where is the address bar???

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I do think it would be nice if there was a more obvious way to bring back the menu bar after hiding it. From the menu bar it's easy to turn on the others.

One way to show the menu bar if it's hidden (on Windows) is to press Alt, just like in Internet Explorer.
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