WG9 Seamonkey 2.49.5 unofficial

[ndebord]

OK, I moved on from 2.94.4 some time ago and went with WG9's unofficial version. it has worked well for some time now, but recently, it is failing with multiple financial sites. I can log in to some of them, but can't do anything there, most options are greyed out. I tried his 2.53 version which can login, however, some (not all) of the extensions that worked with 2.49.5 no longer work with 2.53. I can work around that, but think it is time to figure out what to do, going down the road.

I do not like Firefox, nor the newer iterations of Thunderbird, so am invested in having a SeaMonkey that can handle the web, and in particular, financial sites.

Thanks for listening.

[frg]

The sites are probably doing incorrect user agent sniffing and / or deliberatly shut browsers they don't want to support out. Nothing SeaMonkey can do here. You can set a user agent override and see if it works. 2.49.5 is planned to be the last 2.49 version.

FRG

[ndebord]

The sites are probably doing incorrect user agent sniffing and / or deliberatly shut browsers they don't want to support out. Noting SeaMonkey can do here. You can set a user agent override and see if it works. 2.49.5 is planned to be the last 2.49 version.

FRG

Hi FRG,

Yup.... tried that. I have moved on to 2.53 and have managed to kludge my way through all the extensions that I desire to use. Will see. So far so good with my financial sites.

[4td8s]

note that WG9s SM 2.49.5 unofficial has not been updated for a while (the Windows ports have not been updated since mid-Jan 2019 and the Linux/Mac ports were last updated early Feb. 2019)

in July 2019 I will permanently stop using any SM 2.49.x version (that's around the time Firefox will release a v68.0 ESR) and will run SM 2.53 and perhaps beta test the 2.57 version from WG9S

[therube]

I can log in to some of them, but can't do anything there, most options are greyed out.

What sites?

some (not all) of the extensions that worked with 2.49.5 no longer work with 2.53

Which?

[4td8s]

note that WG9s SM 2.49.5 unofficial has not been updated for a while (the Windows ports have not been updated since mid-Jan 2019 and the Linux/Mac ports were last updated early Feb. 2019)

I can take this back since wg9s is recently providing new unofficial SM 2.49.5 builds this May 2019

latest wg9s build for 2.49.5 on his web site was dated 5/16/2019

[4td8s]

unofficial 2.49.5 from WG9s updated June 29, 2019

[IdOp]

Technically OT, but probably of interest: looks like Seamonkey 2.49.5 official candidate binaries are starting to appear. So far just linux-i686-it. Using it now.

[Bac_a_sable]

Sounds good

[IdOp]

Following up, an official candidate second build has appeared.

[therube]

(Expect a third build.)

[Dan Kies]

Hello everyone,

I tried the official candidate that IdOp linked above. However, one problem keeps me from using any build after 2.49.4: I need an operational java plugin within the browser.

Can anyone point me in some directions where I can keep current on SeaMonkey development AND continue to use a java plugin?

Regards,

Dan

[frg]

The Windows and Linux x86 2.49.5 versions might still support it. For all other platforms, all x64 builds and all later releases it is dead and no longer supported.

https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_java.xml

[James]

Win64 Firefox 52 ESR only allowed Flash Player and Silverlight to run as you needed 32-bit (on Windows) Firefox 52 ESR at the time to run other NPAPI Plugins like Java. Mac OSX and Linux could support all NPAPI Plugins at the time whether 32-bit or 64-bit. Ever since the Firefox 52.0 Release to current only the Flash Player Plugin (NPAPI) has been allowed to run. What happened with NPAPI Plugins and Firefox basically affected SeaMonkey in this case.

Dan Kies, you probably went from using 32-bit SeaMonkey (as WOW64 in useragent shows) to the SeaMonkey 2.49.5 Win64 build you have now as to why the ever vulnerable NPAPI Java Plugin does not run now.

[Dan Kies]

Thank you frg and James,

You are both correct about the win32 build. Everything is working fine in the win32 build of 2.49.5.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and I am kicking myself because I should have remembered that difference between the 32 and 64 windows build myself.

Thanks again.