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SM Mail; reply above the text?

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I went thru the Preferences and I don't see where I can get my reply above/before the original text of the message I'm responding (unlike TB mail).

Why it defaults to after since most other e-mail clients place the response at the top of the page I have every used (including businesses).
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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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videobruce wrote:Why it defaults to after since most other e-mail clients place the response at the top of the page I have every used (including businesses).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology

Netiquette Guidelines (page no. 8)
If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!
A: Because it is perturbing natural way of reading.
Q: Why?
A: Answering above original text (top-posting).
Q: What is most irritating in Usenet?

8-)

... but if you really want to change GOOD behavior to BAD then try this preference:

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mail.identity.default.reply_on_top
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reply_above_quoted_message
In address bar type "about:config", search for above and change it to "1".

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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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It might be the natural way of reading, but with e-mail chains, endless scrolling down to the bottom is a pain, time consuming and unnecessary. When one gets dozens of e-mails over a day, one doesn't have time to 'dig' thru them for the last reply, especially in a work environment. Been there, done that. Besides, I know what the e-mail is about usually by the title.
All I care about is the most recent response, not the previous ones.

"good" behavior is an opinion, something that not everyone agrees with. The point is there should be a easy option to change (in preferences) what someone else 'thinks' is the way to do it. AKA; M$ mentality.

But, thanks for the answer.
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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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videobruce wrote:I went thru the Preferences and I don't see where I can get my reply above/before the original text of the message I'm responding (unlike TB mail).

Why it defaults to after since most other e-mail clients place the response at the top of the page I have every used (including businesses).
Did you select the account name in the Folder Pane, click "View setting for this account", select "Composition & Addressing"?
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WaltS48 wrote:Did you select the account name in the Folder Pane, click "View setting for this account", select "Composition & Addressing"?
Ah! Yes, indeed! I forgot about this:
(when SeaMonkey Mail is active) Menu -> Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings -> [accout_name] -> Composition & Addressing -> in field "Composition" choose "start my reply above the quote"

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I looked thru all of that more than once and for some unknown reason I never saw that. ](*,)

Thanks. I remember TB had that option. It's too bad SM doesn't have the flexibility to place tab bar below the web page using TM Plus.
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The reason I never saw that entry was I was accessing "Preferences" under Edit/Preferences/Mail & newsgroups which I didn't know at the time those are "Global" settings (since nothing in the title states "Global").

Both "Preferences" are label the same.
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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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videobruce wrote:The reason I never saw that entry was I was accessing "Preferences" under Edit/Preferences/Mail & newsgroups which I didn't know at the time those are "Global" settings (since nothing in the title states "Global").
There is only one "Preferences" regardless what windows ("Browser" or "Mail & Newsgroups") user will open.

Reply methods you can change are in an e-mail account settings window but this is accessible from "Mail & Newsgroups" window only:

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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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The confusion is using different terms; Settings & Preferences that mean similar things.
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Re: SM Mail; reply above the text?

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TPR75 wrote:
... but if you really want to change GOOD behavior to BAD then try this preference:

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mail.identity.default.reply_on_top
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reply_above_quoted_message
In address bar type "about:config", search for above and change it to "1".

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TPR75,

Much thanks. I too like it this way.
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