Unwanted    Symbols
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Unwanted    Symbols
When I "Save As" an email to a folder I made in Windows 7 I get these symbols    at the end of sentences. Seems to occur whenever I have used spaces or indentations.
Also, when I receive a mass produced email from for example the government, such as Social Security, in between sentences there is a different kind of symbol.
In either of these incidents, it has not been a problem in the past.
I am using Windows 7 Professional and SeaMonkey 2.49.4. Any help would be appreciated.
Also, when I receive a mass produced email from for example the government, such as Social Security, in between sentences there is a different kind of symbol.
In either of these incidents, it has not been a problem in the past.
I am using Windows 7 Professional and SeaMonkey 2.49.4. Any help would be appreciated.
- LIMPET235
- Moderator
- Posts: 39961
- Joined: October 19th, 2007, 1:53 am
- Location: The South Coast of N.S.W. Oz.
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
Moving to the Seamonkey Forum...
[Ancient Amateur Astronomer.]
Win-10-H/64 bit/500G SSD/16 Gig Ram/450Watt PSU/350WattUPS/Firefox-115.0.2/T-bird-115.3.2./SnagIt-v10.0.1/MWP-7.12.125.
(Always choose the "Custom" Install.)
Win-10-H/64 bit/500G SSD/16 Gig Ram/450Watt PSU/350WattUPS/Firefox-115.0.2/T-bird-115.3.2./SnagIt-v10.0.1/MWP-7.12.125.
(Always choose the "Custom" Install.)
- Frank Lion
- Posts: 21178
- Joined: April 23rd, 2004, 6:59 pm
- Location: ... The Exorcist....United Kingdom
- Contact:
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
Might be related to the ??? mark problem that T/Bird has - http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... #p14830861Bluelead wrote:When I "Save As" an email to a folder I made in Windows 7 I get these symbols    at the end of sentences. Seems to occur whenever I have used spaces or indentations.
Btw their Config Editor is just you putting in about:config into the addressbar in SM.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke (attrib.)
.
.
- Peter Creasey
- Posts: 1342
- Joined: October 26th, 2007, 2:32 pm
- Location: Texas
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
I've had that problem a long time. I just open the message to view, close it, then open it again and everything is normal.
I wish there were some way to make inconvenience go away.
I wish there were some way to make inconvenience go away.
. . . . . . . . . . Pete
-
- Posts: 585
- Joined: January 30th, 2019, 9:38 am
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
If you read the thread linked above, it says go to about:config, find mail.strictly_mime and set it to true. Hopefully that will help, maybe only for future messages. If you do make a change, make a note of it and why it was done.
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
Unfortunately, the suggestions do not correct my problem. But I appreciate the suggestions. My mime is already set to "true." The main problem I have is when I use "Save As" to move one of my emails from SeaMonkey to a Windows 7 folder. I don't even have to change the emails subject name or make any changes to the email in any way.
-
- Posts: 1353
- Joined: July 25th, 2011, 8:11 am
- Location: Poland
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
If you save message (received, draft or sent) as a file and then you'll open it (in Browser) you probably need to change text encoding:Bluelead wrote:Unfortunately, the suggestions do not correct my problem. But I appreciate the suggestions. My mime is already set to "true." The main problem I have is when I use "Save As" to move one of my emails from SeaMonkey to a Windows 7 folder. I don't even have to change the emails subject name or make any changes to the email in any way.
Menu -> View -> Text Encoding -> choose "Unicode"
Works?
BTW There is new SeaMonkey 2.49.5:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/relea ... key2.49.5/
--
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
I had it already set at Unicode. Thanks!
-
- Posts: 1353
- Joined: July 25th, 2011, 8:11 am
- Location: Poland
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
If you've set Browser's encoding to Unicode it applies to websites. When you'll open a file (e.g. EML for saved message) then encoding will change (e.g. to Western). It depends on your OS:Bluelead wrote:I had it already set at Unicode. Thanks!
https://superuser.com/questions/239810/ ... -windows-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_i ... ft_Windows
Open file in Browser and check again for encoding.
--
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
I just realized I made a mistake in my original post. I am not saving to Windows 7. I am taking an email from SeaMonkey In Box and using "Saving As" command to move it to a folder I made in SeaMonkey. When it gets to the destination folder it picks up all these symbols. Sorry for misleading everyone. I am now using SeaMonkey 2.49.5. For the past year my SeaMonkey has been using "True" and "Unicode," as has been suggested in the above posts. I hope this make it easier to find a way to correct the problem? Thanks to everyone.
-
- Posts: 1353
- Joined: July 25th, 2011, 8:11 am
- Location: Poland
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
How do you use "Save As" command?Bluelead wrote:I just realized I made a mistake in my original post. I am not saving to Windows 7. I am taking an email from SeaMonkey In Box and using "Saving As" command to move it to a folder I made in SeaMonkey. When it gets to the destination folder it picks up all these symbols. Sorry for misleading everyone. I am now using SeaMonkey 2.49.5. For the past year my SeaMonkey has been using "True" and "Unicode," as has been suggested in the above posts. I hope this make it easier to find a way to correct the problem? Thanks to everyone.
I'm asking because it can be done in three ways.
1) save message as a file (EML by default):
Menu -> File -> Save As -> File (Ctrl+S)
...or:
click RMB to open context menu -> Save As...
2) save message as a template:
Menu -> File -> Save As -> Template
3) when message is open to edit, reply or forward it can be saved as draft:
Menu -> File -> Save As -> Draft
Using "Save As -> File" will make a file (EML by default) external to SeaMonkey and will save it in some Windows OS folder chosen by you. It can be within SeaMonkey application (in your case):
Code: Select all
%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\SeaMonkey\
Code: Select all
%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\
If you have folder within SeaMonkey e-mail account and you want to move message to other folder then "Inbox" then you can't use "Save As":
Menu -> Message -> Move to -> choose e-mail account -> choose folder
...or:
click RMB to open context menu -> Move to -> choose e-mail account -> choose folder
Well. What are you exactly doing? Saving as a file or just moving message?
--
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
Wow! I appreciate the time and examples. Makes it easy to follow for this novice. I am confusing everyone.
1. I use "Move To" to move a file within SeaMonkey mail . . . no problem. I cannot move to Windows 7 or at least I do not know how.
2. I use "Save As" to save the email message to a folder I made in Windows 7. For years the symbols always appear when I do it. I often use the "Save As" feature to save the email to Windows so I can categorize and change or add to the title for organizational purposes.
3. I also receive email mail that will occasionally have the symbols, but not all emails. I cannot figure out why it is only certain emails.
I think I am confusing everyone and should give up and live with the problem.
1. I use "Move To" to move a file within SeaMonkey mail . . . no problem. I cannot move to Windows 7 or at least I do not know how.
2. I use "Save As" to save the email message to a folder I made in Windows 7. For years the symbols always appear when I do it. I often use the "Save As" feature to save the email to Windows so I can categorize and change or add to the title for organizational purposes.
3. I also receive email mail that will occasionally have the symbols, but not all emails. I cannot figure out why it is only certain emails.
I think I am confusing everyone and should give up and live with the problem.
-
- Posts: 1353
- Joined: July 25th, 2011, 8:11 am
- Location: Poland
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
If there is no problem when MOVING messages within SeaMonkey then it's OK, it works correct.Bluelead wrote: 1. I use "Move To" to move a file within SeaMonkey mail . . . no problem. I cannot move to Windows 7 or at least I do not know how.
When you're using "Save As" to save a message as a file then OS (here: Windows 7) is writing file with its own encoding. See here:Bluelead wrote:2. I use "Save As" to save the email message to a folder I made in Windows 7. For years the symbols always appear when I do it. I often use the "Save As" feature to save the email to Windows so I can categorize and change or add to the title for organizational purposes.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... #p14847743
Every time you'll open such file you must check/change encoding in Browser, in a window/tab where it has been opened.
When you'll receive new message its encoding depends on sender. When sender didn't declared encoding then it'll be used "Default for Current Locale" but you can set specific encoding here:Bluelead wrote:3. I also receive email mail that will occasionally have the symbols, but not all emails. I cannot figure out why it is only certain emails.
Menu -> Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Text Encoding -> in a field "Message Display" set what you need if default didn't work as you want
Don't worry. Potential solution for your problem could be helpful for other people.Bluelead wrote: I think I am confusing everyone and should give up and live with the problem.
Maybe solution for you could be creating additional folders or even sub-folders for additional folder within particular e-mail account? Example with "Test" folder and "Test-2" sub-folder here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... #p14848051
You can copy or just move messages to new folders/sub-folders and then you'll have no problems with encoding.
--
- makaiguy
- Posts: 16878
- Joined: November 18th, 2002, 6:44 pm
- Location: Somewhere in SE USA
- Contact:
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
What program are you using to view those saved messages?
Doug Wilson
Win10 64bit: FF 124.0.2 64bit, TB 102.12.0 32-bit ║ Android 13/10: FF 124.2.0/115.9.0 ║ No TB for Android available, dammit!
What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away - Doobie Brothers
Win10 64bit: FF 124.0.2 64bit, TB 102.12.0 32-bit ║ Android 13/10: FF 124.2.0/115.9.0 ║ No TB for Android available, dammit!
What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away - Doobie Brothers
-
- Posts: 119
- Joined: October 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
Re: Unwanted    Symbols
I am using Windows 7 Professional.
If I use "Copy" command in SeaMonkey to move an email within SeaMonkey I do not get those symbols. But, the "Save As" I will.
However, I cannot edit the subject line with "Save As." If I move that same email to a folder in Windows, the symbols appear.
If I use "Copy" command in SeaMonkey to move an email within SeaMonkey I do not get those symbols. But, the "Save As" I will.
However, I cannot edit the subject line with "Save As." If I move that same email to a folder in Windows, the symbols appear.