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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 4:27 am

pag77 wrote:… without the possibility of updating …


Do you have the option to Upload a New Version? Загрузить новую версию

Here, for example: Image

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 4:34 am

Elhem Enohpi wrote:… I clicked "No, I do not agree" to collection of statistics. But every time I click on a link, it tries to connect to stat.s3blog.org …


Elhem Enohpi, please: did you find the unwanted connections with Waterfox Classic alone?

If also found with Firefox: which version?

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 5:07 am

grahamperrin wrote:
pag77 wrote:… without the possibility of updating …


Do you have the option to Upload a New Version?

No. Admins removed this button from extension page
after 7 minutes I got an absolute ban without the possibility of updating

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 6:27 am

Thank you.

I imagine that in some cases – including soft blocks (such as the one that currently applies to was requested for S3.Translator) – hiding of the button is automated.

Perhaps your first view of the page, before the seven minutes passed, included a cached view of things that should have been hidden from the outset? A guess.

If not automated: perhaps someone at Mozilla chose to temporarily prevent upload – pending investigations around the existing soft block. Again, a guess.

If you are not already aware, a gentle hint that policies were updated by Mozilla in June 2019. Publicised in advance – Add-on Policy and Process Updates | Mozilla Add-ons Blog – with invitations to comment in Mozilla Discourse.

Defocusing from S3.Translator

Since June, there have been occasional surges in blocking activity. I have not paid great attention but the surge at the end of November 2019 was remarkable https://redd.it/e3yzh6 and (if I understand correctly) one of the requests during that week was so broad-ranging that it unexpectedly caused crashes or performance issues for a small percentage of users. For anyone with an interest: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1603115 was updated sixteen hours ago.

Occasionally I spend time in IRC chat. I sense that most AMO people attend to issues (with great focus) on weekdays; without working at the weekend …

Your extensions

As Mozilla showed "good faith" relating to misunderstandings in 2015, I hope that the same will be shown on this occasion.

HTH

Kind regards
Graham
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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 6:30 am

Can we get this thread back on topic? It's about a specific extension, not for discussion of AMO or it's policies.

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 7:16 am

Sorry,

DanRaisch wrote:… not for discussion of AMO or it's policies.


the block is policy-based – and discrete.

I thought that it would help the developer (and other readers) to have some context about changes, and consequences, in recent months.

As an alternative we have – and Mozilla prefers – https://discourse.mozilla.org/c/add-ons

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 7:21 am

I thought that it would help the developer (and other readers) to have some context about changes, and consequences, in recent months.

Perhaps it would, but not in this thread.

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Post Posted December 21st, 2019, 12:24 pm

DanRaisch wrote:… Firefox itself or Waterfox?


Initially with home-built Waterfox Classic 2019.12 (20191210201058) on FreeBSD-CURRENT.

Reproducible with Mozilla Firefox 71.0 (20191208150541) on the same system:

Image

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grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ % date ; uname -v
Sat 21 Dec 2019 18:55:19 GMT
FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #48 r355978: Sat Dec 21 12:25:06 GMT 2019     root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG
grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ % pkg query '%o %v %R' firefox waterfox
www/firefox 71.0_2,1 FreeBSD
www/waterfox 2019.12.c unknown-repository
grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ % firefox -p S3.Translator


Screen recording: https://put.re/player/G9vC3Fhd.mp4

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Post Posted December 24th, 2019, 7:51 am

grahamperrin wrote:Initially with home-built Waterfox Classic 2019.12 (20191210201058) on FreeBSD-CURRENT.

Reproducible with Mozilla Firefox 71.0 (20191208150541) on the same system:


It's old version...
I can’t understand why the data collection occurs with the settings "disabled", so in the current version the algorithm of statistics is completely deactivated
md5 for current version: CA949C9F25F18CE91F3A51362C187610
sha256 for current version: 477D2308F84D667B2FEB44CFB12035351D65A861112DF2E1452EFB5F9DF29BDF

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Post Posted December 24th, 2019, 9:32 am

Any news about a version to work in Thunderbird 68+?

It would help if you would answer, even if just to say you definitely aren't going to make one - then I could unsubscribe from this thread and stop hoping.

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Post Posted December 24th, 2019, 9:52 am

DavidGB wrote:Any news about a version to work in Thunderbird 68+?

Thunderbird 68 began to switch to WebExtensions.
Unfortunately at the moment they have abandoned some of the old APIs, but have not yet created new ones.
https://developer.thunderbird.net/add-ons/tb68/changes

As a result, now this situation: the old XUL version of the extension can no longer work, and the new WebExtensions version can not work yet

You can install Thunderbird 60 ESR
Last version: 60.9.1 , November 5, 2019
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thund ... easenotes/

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Post Posted December 24th, 2019, 1:24 pm

S3.Translator s3firefox@translator1 6.25 477d2308f84d667b2feb44cfb12035351d65a861112df2e1452efb5f9df29bdf 2019-12-24 19:40

pag77 wrote:It's old version...


OK, I probably tested:

  • the signed version 6.25 that was downloaded on Saturday 2019-12-21
  • ID s3firefox@translator
  • SHA256 60233ef0c19c94f880b81633ad9105f64c5f77655f1ea36c36173fccbd8821eb

I can’t understand why the data collection occurs with the settings "disabled", so in the current version the algorithm of statistics is completely deactivated
md5 for current version: CA949C9F25F18CE91F3A51362C187610
sha256 for current version: 477D2308F84D667B2FEB44CFB12035351D65A861112DF2E1452EFB5F9DF29BDF


I now have:

  • the different signed version 6.25
  • ID s3firefox@translator1
  • SHA256 477d2308f84d667b2feb44cfb12035351d65a861112df2e1452efb5f9df29bdf

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grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~/Documents/IT/Mozilla/add-ons/S3.Translator % sha256 s3translator_firefox\ 2019-12-19.xpi
SHA256 (s3translator_firefox 2019-12-19.xpi) = 60233ef0c19c94f880b81633ad9105f64c5f77655f1ea36c36173fccbd8821eb
grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~/Documents/IT/Mozilla/add-ons/S3.Translator % sha256 s3translator_firefox\ 2019-12-21.xpi
SHA256 (s3translator_firefox 2019-12-21.xpi) = 60233ef0c19c94f880b81633ad9105f64c5f77655f1ea36c36173fccbd8821eb
grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~/Documents/IT/Mozilla/add-ons/S3.Translator % sha256 s3translator_firefox\ 2019-12-24\ 19:40.xpi
SHA256 (s3translator_firefox 2019-12-24 19:40.xpi) = 477d2308f84d667b2feb44cfb12035351d65a861112df2e1452efb5f9df29bdf
grahamperrin@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~/Documents/IT/Mozilla/add-ons/S3.Translator %


Re: viewtopic.php?p=14852228#p14852228 point 1 (collection of ancillary user data)

s3firefox@translator1 477d2308f84d667b2feb44cfb12035351d65a861112df2e1452efb5f9df29bdf appears to be OK, at a glance:

https://put.re/player/j9265Vbc.mp4

To avoid confusion, please, can you make available a file that uses a distinctive version number for the end result?

A non-blocked version 6.25 alongside a blocked version 6.25 may cause confusion. Also I assume that today's 6.25 477d2308f84d667b2feb44cfb12035351d65a861112df2e1452efb5f9df29bdf is significantly different from the 6.25 in Chrome Web Store. Three installations of 6.25:

Image

Given the signifant difference of today's 6.25 for Firefox from the earlier distributions of 6.25:

  • 6.3 maybe?

Also use distinctive file names, if you like.

Thanks again
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Post Posted December 26th, 2019, 12:26 pm

Oleksander, for your information:

https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/-/50245?u=grahamperrin

I do not know timescales, sorry.

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Post Posted December 26th, 2019, 1:27 pm

pag77 wrote:… I can’t understand why the data collection occurs with the settings "disabled", …


A guess (I am not a developer):

compare content/statistics.js lines 31 and 35 ("on" and "off")

with content/statistics_go.js line 117 (previously line 116),

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    if (statistics == false) {


Instead, this?

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    if (statistics == off) {


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Still, I wonder whether Mozilla will treat the statistics as ancillary – even when the user does agree to collection.

For Firefox, for this extension, maybe advisable to never collect statistics of this type.

HTH

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Post Posted December 28th, 2019, 5:33 am

Any chances to see this add-on working for TB 71+ in the near future (and please don't forget users of Linux, like Mint or other Ubuntu based ones)?
The main problem for Linux users is an often non working bubble (=the small translator icon appearing below any marked text)
or a translation window which doesn't fit in any TB theme.

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