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Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 1:07 pm

I've the latest version of fx and I have problems with it; but just on Wikipedia.

1.) Some times, when I click on link to page, it opens, but is blank. Sometimes it helps to reload, sometimes does not.

2.) Some time I receive a message about downloading (for "application/octet-stream", "php file").

What could be wrong?

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Klemen

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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 1:43 pm

My guess is that 1) is the result of a bug that Firefox seems to have, which causes it to treat an interrupted download as if it completed normally. I've noticed this before, but not recently, and I've never investigated it enough to file a bug report or check for existing bugs. I've been meaning to do that.

For 2), it would be nice if you could give a specific example, but it's probably a server configuration problem.

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 1:48 pm

About 2nd problem:
This happen's sometimes. I click "no" and "reload", and is fine.

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KK

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 1:49 pm

Right now I'm having problems with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_I_of_France (2nd problem above).

KK

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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 2:04 pm

Is there a specific link on that page that is triggering the problem? The page itself seems to load fine, but it's possible that Wikipedia has a misconfigured server that you only get occasionally because they use load-balancing.

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 26th, 2005, 10:17 pm

No, I couldn't open that page at all; just blank page.

But I noticed, that pages with special characters in title are more often "infected" with 2nd problem.

I didn't have any problems until I formated my C: disc and load all the newest programs.

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K

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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 4:46 am

1. Clear your Cache (Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Cache). Then try loading the page again.

2. Do you have any extensions installed that could cause a conflict? Try disabling them one by one (Go to Tools -> Extensions and right-click on an extension to disable it).

3. If none of the above works, I recommend creating a new Firefox Profile: http://the-edmeister.home.comcast.net/html/advice.html

SH

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 9:35 am

No, nothing works, still having same 2nd problem.

IE is working fine, just Firefox and Mozilla are bugging me about php files (and just on Wikipedia and just me).

Any other ideas?

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K

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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 10:00 am

Can you provide a screenshot or at least the exact text of the message?

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 10:08 am

OK, I have slovenian version, but translation would be

Opening Veter
(image of dokument) Veter
,which is: application/octet-stream
from http://sl.wikipedia.org

What should Firefox do?
Open with program (browse)
Save to disc

OK - Cancel

========

or

========

Opening index.php
(image of dokument) Veter
,which is: PHP file
from http://sl.wikipedia.org

What should Firefox do?
Open with program (browse)
Save to disc

OK - Cancel

PHP problem was, when I tried to open http://sl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... did=117522

Usualy I have to repeat several times to open but sometimes nothing works (I tried going back, used search function,...)
Last edited by Klemen Kocjancic on May 27th, 2005, 10:14 am, edited 2 times in total.

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 10:09 am

One more thing, I get this message on about every 35-40 opened pages.

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K

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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 10:42 am

I really think this is due to a server misconfiguration, but I can't locate the exact problem. en.wikipedia.org resolves to 14 different IP addresses, and it's possible that one of these is the source of the problem, but so far I haven't found a way to test them individually.

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 12:30 pm

I reported this thing to Wikipedia; see http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2256

Thanks for your help!

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K

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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 12:51 pm

We've got about 40 web servers behind several reverse proxies behind those 14 IP addresses.

I haven't ever been able to reproduce this problems hitting the servers directly (or, for that matter, loading pages in Firefox, though other people have reported this problem). It might be very helpful if you could provide the actual headers included with these problem hits ('live http headers' extension may or may not help here).
<i>Chu vi parolas Vikipedion?</i>

Klemen Kocjancic
 
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Post Posted May 27th, 2005, 1:31 pm

Do you mean something like this?

I went on http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Recentchanges and started clicking.

URL (planned action, message, detail, try)

http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uporabnik:Obradovic_Goran (watching, PHP message; URL wasn't written; second try worked)
http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_sr (watching, blank page)
http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Plant (watching, blank page)
http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ru%C5%A1d (history; PHP message; - // -, -//-)

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