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CrossBud

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Post Posted August 2nd, 2006, 4:27 am

I'm fond of the shortcut Alt+S
to submit my replies in most forums.

But now I found the shortcut has been occupied by fx for the History shortcut.
I wish that the staff can cancel this shortcut.

Please, Alt+S to submit is really vital for many forums users.
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Post Posted August 2nd, 2006, 4:38 am

it was changed by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343909
so comment in the bug ?

CrossBud

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Post Posted August 2nd, 2006, 5:15 am

Thank you.
I've done that.

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Post Posted August 2nd, 2006, 5:59 am

Yes, I found this change annoying too. You can either use Shift-Alt+S to submit or you can change it back to how it was using about:config
Change:
ui.key.chromeAccess to 5
ui.key.contentAccess to 4

This will allow you to use Alt for webpage shortcuts and Shift-Alt for Firefox's menu shortcuts

CrossBud

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Post Posted August 2nd, 2006, 6:39 am

stonedyak wrote:Yes, I found this change annoying too. You can either use Shift-Alt+S to submit or you can change it back to how it was using about:config
Change:
ui.key.chromeAccess to 5
ui.key.contentAccess to 4

This will allow you to use Alt for webpage shortcuts and Shift-Alt for Firefox's menu shortcuts

wow, this is what exactly i needed.
Thanks a lot

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Post Posted August 16th, 2006, 12:38 pm

thanks

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Post Posted August 16th, 2006, 12:51 pm

stonedyak wrote:Change:
ui.key.chromeAccess to 5
ui.key.contentAccess to 4

This will allow you to use Alt for webpage shortcuts and Shift-Alt for Firefox's menu shortcuts


Note that as-is, you can use Alt for menu shortcuts and shift+alt for webpage shortcuts, which I find more useful...

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Post Posted August 17th, 2006, 9:13 am

stonedyak wrote:This will allow you to use Alt for webpage shortcuts and Shift-Alt for Firefox's menu shortcuts

Also note that there's currently no way of making the menu access key a modifier combination (since it's controlled by the "old-style" ui.key.menuAccessKey pref and not ui.key.chromeAccess as you seem to suppose), so menu shortcuts will remain Alt+... even with the new prefs changed - what you want will still work though, because content access keys overwrite chrome ones.

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Post Posted August 17th, 2006, 11:02 am

but there is possibility to make another symbol. even alt+h for history and alt+l for help for example. but making alt+shift+something for the function that is used very often by many people isn't really great. especially considering the fact that over half of non english users have alt+shift used for changing of keyboard layout. accidently quickly pressed alt+shift without s will lead to changing of layout...

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Post Posted August 17th, 2006, 11:15 am

coth wrote:but there is possibility to make another symbol. even alt+h for history and alt+l for help for example.

That'd be a work-around, not a solution. In this line of thought, you'd have to determine which access keys happen to be used "often" and then make sure that no localized Firefox version uses any of them for menus and shortcuts. Not allowing web content to take over chrome shortcuts seems like the much cleaner solution.

coth wrote:but making alt+shift+something for the function that is used very often by many people isn't really great. especially considering the fact that over half of non english users have alt+shift used for changing of keyboard layout.

Care to share any statistics on "very often", "many people" and "over half of non english users"?

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Post Posted August 17th, 2006, 2:58 pm

there are two standard options - ctrl+shift or alt+shift. personally i use ctrl+shift, but most of people i know prefer alt+shift, which is default in windows.

and yes indeed very often and by many people.

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Post Posted August 17th, 2006, 3:28 pm

who are these many people? i for one don't use either and if i did, i'd perfer ctrl+shift, since it's easier to hit with the fingers

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Post Posted August 27th, 2006, 10:16 am

Maybe not "many" people, but anywhere where people with different language/keyboard preferences work on the same computer, this *will* lead to annoyances. Alt-shift changes the language of the keyboard, so after pressing it, Windows changes the keyboard settings and suddenly what you type is not what you see. I've experienced this with another application and it's extremely annoying (I had to uninstall the application and find another one).

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Post Posted September 15th, 2006, 6:51 pm

I am using both chrome and content with value 4
It's weird to hold two keys but might be necessary...

Here, a little deep explanation:

Shift values 1
Ctrl values 2
Alt values 4

Maths:
Shift + Ctrl = 3
Shift + Alt = 5
Alt + Ctrl = 6
Ctrl + Shift + Alt = 7

Standard in Firefox BonEcho 2.0 is 5 (Shift + Alt)

Changing both:
ui.key.chromeAccess to 4
ui.key.contentAccess to 4

you will only need to press [ALT Key + letter] to access the button. That's what I am using :)

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Post Posted September 25th, 2006, 3:19 pm

This was exactly what I was looking for thanks

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