Various comments on the pref dialog

jonasj · Post by **jonasj** » November 10th, 2002, 12:03 pm

I was never fond of Mozilla using a tree rather than a list as its pref panel selector, and I'm sad that it's been carried over to Phoenix. There's only a total of 10 panels, so there's no need to hide four of them under Advanced. I believe it can be difficult for users to discover that Advanced can be expanded since it is also a panel itself.
What's 'Reject popup windows' doing in Advanced rather than JavaScript?
IMHO the confusion caused by combining list-based panel selection with tab-based in the Themes and Extensions panel outweighs the convenience of a one item shorter panel list. Are extensions and themes really related enough to warrant this?

Post by **djst** » November 10th, 2002, 12:30 pm

jonasj wrote:
IMHO the confusion caused by combining list-based panel selection with tab-based in the Themes and Extensions panel outweighs the convenience of a one item shorter panel list. Are extensions and themes really related enough to warrant this?

I agree that the Themes and Extensions panel should be split into two separate panels.

asa · Post by **asa** » November 10th, 2002, 12:59 pm

jonasj wrote:
I was never fond of Mozilla using a tree rather than a list as its pref panel selector, and I'm sad that it's been carried over to Phoenix.
<snip>

Expedience. The longerterm plan was, and I think still is, to go to catagory icons rather than a tree.
--Asa

seb · Post by **seb** » November 10th, 2002, 1:07 pm

Yeah, something like Galeon2's prefs panel would be great. See http://galeon.sourceforge.net/graphics/ ... 2prefs.png
Of course, a good graphist is needed for this, but this'd be really cool, and much much more user-friendly.

jonasj · Post by **jonasj** » November 10th, 2002, 6:17 pm

asa wrote:Expedience. The longerterm plan was, and I think still is, to go to catagory icons rather than a tree.

w00t! Phoenix rules!

Abiku · Post by **Abiku** » November 11th, 2002, 10:31 am

jonasj wrote:
What's 'Reject popup windows' doing in Advanced rather than JavaScript?

I'm so glad somebody else finds that annoying or curious. It's something I grumble about everytime I look for the option, but never remember to mention here as a RFE.

I also agree with your first comment about not needing to have things hidden under Advanced. I can understand the desire to hide potentially confusing options under Advanced so new users don't get too overwhelmed by the options, but I don't think there are enough options overall to warrant burying things.

I'm probably just bitter that I keep having to expand the Advanced tree and then expand the Tabbed Browsing tree just to change a single option back and forth sometimes...

Post by **djst** » November 11th, 2002, 10:37 am

jonasj wrote:w00t! Phoenix rules!

Pretty far away from "This browser sucks", eh?

Welcome home Jonas.

jonasj · Post by **jonasj** » November 11th, 2002, 11:13 am

djst wrote:
jonasj wrote:w00t! Phoenix rules!

Pretty far away from "This browser sucks", eh?

Yeah... but this is a different browser. :-)

Sir Rufus · Post by **Sir Rufus** » November 11th, 2002, 5:26 pm

asa wrote: The longerterm plan was, and I think still is, to go to catagory icons rather than a tree.
--Asa

The icons in Galeon2 definitely look cooler, but I don't really see that they add clarity. I guess if you don't have a lot of categories, they'd work OK.

Sir Rufus · Post by **Sir Rufus** » November 11th, 2002, 5:30 pm

On another note, how do people feel about Preferences being in the Tools menu, a la IE, rather than under Edit? Haven't made up my mind on this one, personally.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » November 11th, 2002, 6:05 pm

Sir Rufus wrote:On another note, how do people feel about Preferences being in the Tools menu, a la IE, rather than under Edit? Haven't made up my mind on this one, personally.

It confuses the hell out of me since I still also use Mozilla.
But I can adapt I guess

Post by **djst** » November 12th, 2002, 12:06 am

Stefan wrote:It confuses the hell out of me since I still also use Mozilla.
But I can adapt I guess

Yeah, it should change in Mozilla too.

scratch · Post by **scratch** » November 12th, 2002, 4:00 am

Stefan wrote:
Sir Rufus wrote:On another note, how do people feel about Preferences being in the Tools menu, a la IE, rather than under Edit? Haven't made up my mind on this one, personally.

It confuses the hell out of me since I still also use Mozilla.
But I can adapt I guess

I think it's unintuitive and annoying. I don't see how preferences is a tool, and I'm used to finding it under edit.

thenightfly42 · Post by **thenightfly42** » November 12th, 2002, 7:13 am

Sir Rufus wrote:On another note, how do people feel about Preferences being in the Tools menu, a la IE, rather than under Edit? Haven't made up my mind on this one, personally.

It doesn't really matter to me, since every Windows program puts it in a different place. This is something I love about Mac OS X; the preferences are forced to be under the Application menu [not to start an OS war or anything].

Thumper · Post by **Thumper** » November 12th, 2002, 7:16 am

It's usually under Tools on Windows apps these days. Edit is for document attributes, not application options.

- Chris

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