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viewing font, change from ugly Verdana?

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dakota730
 
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Post Posted February 6th, 2004, 5:37 am

Well, Netscape 4.79 isn't working for me anymore, so a friend recommended Mozilla Thunderbird instead of Outlook. I like the interface, but don't like the big clunky font that is standard with the email program. How do I change this to something like Arial?

Make it simple too, I am not very tech savvy. Thanks. -Dakota

Old Bozz
 
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Post Posted February 6th, 2004, 2:59 pm

dakota730 wrote:Well, Netscape 4.79 isn't working for me anymore, so a friend recommended Mozilla Thunderbird instead of Outlook. I like the interface, but don't like the big clunky font that is standard with the email program. How do I change this to something like Arial?

Make it simple too, I am not very tech savvy. Thanks. -Dakota

Could you be more specific? Which fonts are you referring to? Menu, Message pane, Composing...etc. :wink:

irrevenant
 
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Post Posted February 6th, 2004, 5:06 pm

I'm not sure which the original poster is talking about, but I would appreciate the ability to change the font in the headers pane, and the folders pane.

It would be great if it was somewhere obvious in the Options screen. Also, it's not clear from the Options which text the Fonts tab affects.

Thanks.

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Post Posted February 7th, 2004, 3:49 am

irrevenant wrote:I'm not sure which the original poster is talking about, but I would appreciate the ability to change the font in the headers pane, and the folders pane.

It would be great if it was somewhere obvious in the Options screen. Also, it's not clear from the Options which text the Fonts tab affects.

Thanks.

See if any of this is what you looking for. Edit to your liking.

userchrome.css

/* Change Browser Fonts */
* { font-size: 9pt !important;
font-family: Times New Roman !important; }

/* Folderpane(color/text) & Messagepane(color) */
treechildren {
background-color: #F1F1F1 !important;
font-family: Times New Roman !important;
font-size: 13px !important; }

/* Messagepane text */
treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
font-size: 10pt !important;
font-family : Times New Roman bold !important;
color: #D50000 !important }

treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(read) {
font-size: 10pt ! important;
font-family : Times New Roman bold !important; }

user.js

// Previewpane Background color
user_pref("browser.display.background_color", "#F1F1F1");

humptybump
 
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Post Posted February 8th, 2004, 10:30 pm

In your suggestion, you give teh example:

treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread)
{
font-size: 10pt !important;
font-family : Times New Roman bold !important;
color: #D50000 !important
}

I am trying to get my read and unread entries to both be "not-bold" and only use the "red" text color to distinguish the difference. I can not seem to define a font-family that is not bold. I tried the following:

treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread)
{
font-size: 10pt !important;
font-family : Arial !important;
color: #D50000 !important
}


Is what I ask, possible ?

i

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Post Posted February 10th, 2004, 6:37 am

Note that certain parts of the fonts are affected by the fonts You have choosed for Windows.
(E g: Right-click on desktop - Propertys - Appearence - e g fonts for menus etc.)
Nitpick: Icons for folders and mail lists: http://tberg.net/_/G.php3?page=MOZILLA/1 Image

RoyalMail

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Post Posted February 10th, 2004, 4:38 pm

Er, what's so ugly about verdana? It's one of the most legible on-screen fonts, particularly in small sizes. You can get more compact fonts but you do sacrifice legibility.

Regds, RM.

Old Bozz
 
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Post Posted February 10th, 2004, 5:13 pm

Did you happen to back up your prefs.js file before you made any changes?

treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread)
{
font-size: 10pt !important;
font-family : Arial !important;
color: #D50000 !important
}

...should work. Athough when I tried to change the font color with "unread" I could not read the header when I clicked on it. A weird conflict, so I resorted to using the default font color and not changing it. The color blends clashed.

Do this...close TB and make a backup of your profile folder, then delete your pref.js and pref.bak file and remove your userchrome.css. Re-start TB and close. This should create a fresh pref.js. Start over with your userchrome.css before you move it into the new profile. Remove the changes you've tried first.

I don't have much time during the week to play with it, but if I don't hear from you by the weekend, I'll check it out and post back. :wink:

humptybump
 
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Post Posted February 10th, 2004, 9:14 pm

Thanks for the experiment. I rna through all the steps you requested. I do indeed get "red text" but the font is "bold" even though I don't add "bold" to the font-family. It looks like it always shows unread text as bold regardless of the cell-text setting.

i

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Post Posted February 10th, 2004, 9:46 pm

This works for me in userChrome.css:

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
font-size: 10pt ! important;
font-family : Tahoma, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif ! important;
font-weight: normal ! important;
}

(I have normally "bold" in code above but changed and tested with "normal", which worked.)

Note the "::" instead of only one ":" !
Nitpick: Icons for folders and mail lists: http://tberg.net/_/G.php3?page=MOZILLA/1 Image

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Post Posted February 11th, 2004, 2:00 pm

Cool !

The "font-weight" was the missing peice of the puzzle. I now have two cell-text descriptions; one for "read" and one for "unread" and they only differ in color. My view looks exaclty the way I had hoped.

Thanks !

kevito
 
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Post Posted July 4th, 2004, 8:18 pm

Um, this looks all great and I'd love to change away. But where exactly are:

userchrome.css
pref.js
prefs.js
user.js

??

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thunderbird 0.7.1
windows 2000

wintogreen
 
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Post Posted July 5th, 2004, 1:52 am

http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/edit.html
Prefs.js is also in your profile folder.

kevito
 
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Post Posted July 5th, 2004, 9:27 pm

Thanks.. didn't realize you had to create these files yourself. It's kind of buried in the documentation here. Thanks for the link.

pdrummond

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Post Posted March 1st, 2005, 3:35 pm

Boz' instruction Feb 7 for changing fonts in userchrome.css was the following: Is something missing after the lone * such as maybe treechildren::blahblah?


/* Change Browser Fonts */
* { font-size: 9pt !important;
font-family: Times New Roman !important; }

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