Discussion about official Mozilla Firefox builds
Maybe FireBrowser should have sufficed instead.
Man, I can't imagine what will happen once Fire[insert name of animal] hit version 1.0...........
FireFly - O_O
Thy Fox will look from thy shadows,Thou Shall Feel thy cunning will.
I use nightlies Trunk Builds, I will ask Trunk Question and post Trunk Bugs ONLY. Please do not tell me "Using Branch build here,everything works fine.".DUH.
It´s not the name that is important, but i hope that name will be defenitive.
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Firefox? I HATE IT! That name is not endearing at all.
It was bad enough trying to support a browser named loosely after bloody Godzilla! That's not really endearing at all either.
This is a huge disapointment and I think it's pathetic that those who have invested energy in the project did not get a say in the name change.
AH crapper! This sucks... if the bloody software wasn't so good, I'd be cracking it big time!
Heh all those that *really* invested their time and efforts did get a say. I wonder who you're thinking of.
mozBirdLuva , you need a new user name to mozDogLuva.
I do not liek the new name, Phoenix and FireBird are related names in a way, but where does the Dog come into it?
So will we see ThunderFox for ThunderBird?
I can see Clint wincing just now, "I sure hope Mozilla's Firefox fares better than my movie did."#-o
Oh well, what's in a name?
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Never let them see you sweat
I think we should let Mozilla know there is a software company called FireFox and they make a piece of software called FireFox which has been around for a number of years now. **I smell court rooms here**
yea, mozBirdLuva, what the heck have you been doing since 06 Aug 2003? Because you know only those that "really" invested their time and efforts did get a say.
Never let them see you sweat
IF it is for legal reasons so be it. But it does sound silly.
I like it.
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Firefox just sounds so...wrong. It doesn't go with Thunderbird at all. I'd much rather they changed the name YET AGAIN rather than keep Firefox. It sounds like a furry's wet dream. Just think of it ... Mozilla....Camino....Safari...Lynx....Konqueror...
If the Mozilla organization "don't believe [their] use of the Firebird name infringed on their trademark" they should have kept the name.
I like the new name.
Ok so compared to slaving over code hour after hour, most of our efforts have been nothing more than evangelism. However this takes some guts when dealing with the religous-like geek zealotry out there.
My post was a little OTT but really I come from somewhat of a marketing background and this name/change is pretty bad form. All the press the browser has been getting is now next to useless and really this is not a name that means anything whatsoever. Imagine you're talking to someone who doesn't even know that Internet Explorer is a Web browser and then think how you would explain "Mozilla Firefox" ??
The rationale for keeping a link to the past is highly dubious being that Firebird has only been around for barely a year. If a name change was that necessary, why not think of something that could really carry meaning as this HAS to be the last name change and personally I don't think it's very good.
Sadly I think this move continues the all too disastrous brand identity story that was Netscape Navigator, Netscape Communicator, oh no, just Netscape, oh hang on, Netscape Netcenter, oh hang on "My Netscape"... Netscape the ISP... Mozilla (a word stolen by MSIE in it's UA string) - nope, now it's mozilla.org oh, hut hum,... sorry, now it's the Mozilla Foundation but sometimes we still call it a domain name instead of a name so mozilla.org is still ok... ooops, hang on, but what is Mozilla Firebird? Oh it's the standalone browser of "the Mozilla Project" which also has the equivalant to what was Netscape Communicator (you know, the thing Netscape released before AOL bought it out - oh hang on, it's "AOL TimeWarner", sorry about that) - the Mozilla Application Suite though really does three 'Applications' (browser, mail, Web editor - an address book is not an application) really constitute a 'suite'? Phew... hang on, I'm just taking a breath...
Now just an aside... excuse me whilst I digress... there's a quick little revision we need to do. In between Netscape BLAH 4.x ... what? Oh nah there was no porno version called Netscape 4X (and if so, why wouldn't it have been called Netscape 3X - you know, XXX?) the x means 4.whatever, trust me, that's easier as there were A LOT of version 4 point something releases. Now... let me get back to my digression from my disgression... don't distract me, this is complicated stuff! Ok, Netscape threw in the towel after version 4.whatever and gave away their code (this is, btw in case you are just a little confused, where mozBLAH got it's start) and eventually after more than a couple of years, they released Netscape 6. Yes that's right, no Navigator, no Communicator not even a "Suite" for that matter. Finally Netscape was just bloody Netscape. Or was it? See problem was that Netscape 6 was really mozBLAH.orgeckoAPPsuite but a premature version at that. Netscape 6 was digraceful which is not surprising because really AOLtimeNetscapeWarner really thought it was Netscape 5. Anyway to cut a long story shorter... mozBLAH.orgeckoAPPsuiteAOLtimeNetscapeWarner quickly released Nutscrape 6.2 (see, 6.1 was terrible as well, and don't even mention 6.01) based on a mature mozBLAH.orgeckoAPPsuite version number 1 (point zero). Then there was Nutscrape 6.2 POINT TWO! which was the last Nutscrape starting with a 6 that was really a 5. Next came Nutscrape 7 and then 7point1. No sorry son I can't tell you what they're code number was, probably 6.5 or something equally as senseless.
Now... next we have the icons... Mozilla has this thing called Dino... oh nah sorry mate, can't tell you how Dino relates to Godzilla OR Mozilla. Oh and hang on, I almost lead you astray there... don't forget Gecko which is not a lizard-looking 'skin' for any of the above programs but actually nothing. Well when I mean nothing, you can't see it see, it's all the code that shows you what you can see.
OK, you still with me? Good. Now there's the old logo/icon which looked like red flames with one orange one in the middle. Reminded me of fire, for sure, maybe duck feathers so if you consider ducks birds then ... next came the blue globe with the 'flying' creme F which made some sense as the globe represented the World which Firebird allowed us to discover and the 'flying' F represented speed and a bird. Never did figure out why the F was a tame cremey-orange colour though. Now that has gone, not sure why. Now we've got a flaming fox curling around a globe which to me is weird see... foxes don't fly, last I heard, unless you are talking about a flying fox! Which leads me to the conclusion that you will have to ignore the name and just tell people:
"I've found a cool browser that's ten times better than IE. It's called FlyingFox or something ... yeah name doesn't make any sense to me either but just try it and see what you think".
la la la... hey, put me down... there's nothing wrong with m
You all know what makes this point even more dramatically than that blabber you just read? Name the competition?
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Has that EVER changed in the 10 years it's been around? NO!
Maybe... just maybe... there is something we can learn from our Microsoft brothers - CONSISTENT BRAND IDENTITY WORKS!
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