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Mozilla Developer Day 2004
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choffman: Not much to say, mentioned that moz.org sold $15k in tshirts for (linuxcon/oscon/devday), good for them.
mitchell:
- not much that her blog entry didn't say
- desire to continue contributting to standards development (plugin/whatwg)
- Mentioned increasing corporate interest/support
- increasing web traffic, cracks top 1700 on release days
mshaver/beich:
- shaver - aboout - heh
- 2.0 goals:
- Graphics toolkit to improve
- Decent in xp capabilities before
- Looking to improve, mentioned svg
- Increased grapbics capabilities in PLATFORM not WEB
- better embedded (mentions mozgtk/epiphany/mono)
- express a desire to be part of a larger platform
- Standalone apps are difficult
- The boilerplate needs to be in place
- want a toolkit that doesn't require so much to figure out
- dev-test.m.o
- they say that dev.mo.org is going to happen
- desire to be able to
- Q42004
- replacement for gfx with cairo
- getting close, not ready yet but expected to be
- licensing issues
- lot of momentum behind cairo
- Dewipification
- xtf landed
- way of implementing tags in native code (more to come)
- (some) svg
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- xulrunner
- xulrunner builds but doesn't do anything
- mentioned on fisher's blog as to what it is
- want a migration to Fx and Tb
- Q205
- libxul.so
- Shrink entry points from xulrunner so that ONLY frozen entry points
are exposed
- Goal of having something similar to what Quicken does with IE engine
(trident)
- Q405
- Moz 2.0
- need developer support infrastructure ongoing up to this point
- shaver working on a sort of interface between .net asseblies and xpcom.
- says it's been tested with c# and ironpython, but it's rough
- Narcissus
- Want to glue everything together takes a bunch of code
- desire to have a single object mode, reflection, inspection etc etc
- goal to make jump from xul to C++ easier
- lift up spidermonkey, replace component part, replace with something
better
- maybe at same time replace frontend with narcissus, allowing people
to target jbm, .net, etc
- XMLE4X
- looks cool, I've seen similar stuff in python
- can grab all descendants and do junk with them
- xml objects created as necessary
- say it'll be checked into the tree "soon"
- canvas
- got apple's api implemented
- vincent hacked it out since wednesday
- using cairo to do blending, formatting, etc
- looking to standardize stuff through WHATWG
- postscript-like api
- only works on vlad's and shaver's laptop
- xul2
- template overhaul (!)
- single file apps (shaver: mail it to someone!)
- better remote-app support (e.g. being able to sort columns)
- Drag and drop api (again, want to WHATWG w/apple)
- looking at transparent/non-rectangular window
- want help with wikis
- write docs -- heh
- say that moz 2.0 is a platform push
roc:
- Top level window -- background:transparent gives a transparent window
- demo of animated gif in linux
- svg
- shooting for enabling in 1.8 or 1.9
- demo semitransparent overlaid butterfly
- columns
- hack of a sort, eventually hoping for full CSS3 compat.
- Plan on getting approx. constant actual size for pixels
- says it's not too hard once move to cairo is done
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