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Post Posted April 9th, 2004, 7:23 am

Can I request you guys to come out with some more 3dnow builds please? The last one by Moox was really good... but had to give it up as it did not support Java.

Thanks.

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Post Posted April 9th, 2004, 3:44 pm

To get support with Java, you need to use MSVC instead of gcc. However, only gcc has automatic 3DNow! (AMD-specific) optimizations.

So <abbr title="as far as I know">AFAIK</abbr> this is not possible.
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Post Posted April 9th, 2004, 4:04 pm

Mook wrote:To get support with Java, you need to use MSVC instead of gcc. However, only gcc has automatic 3DNow! (AMD-specific) optimizations.

So <abbr title="as far as I know">AFAIK</abbr> this is not possible.


Uh, THIS has been done.
I am currently using one of his builds

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Post Posted April 10th, 2004, 5:09 am

3dnow adds VERY little, if at all. mmx adds much more (on amd CPUs)
Tried SmoothWheel already?

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Post Posted April 10th, 2004, 5:25 am

TheFakeIdea wrote:
Mook wrote:To get support with Java, you need to use MSVC instead of gcc. However, only gcc has automatic 3DNow! (AMD-specific) optimizations.

So <abbr title="as far as I know">AFAIK</abbr> this is not possible.


Uh, THIS has been done.
I am currently using one of his builds

No, it hasn't. moox' builds are good, but they don't support Java (which is not the same as JavaScript), which makes them unusable for anyone who wants or needs Java. Unless somebody finds a miraculous workaround for gcc's incompatibility with Sun's JRE this situation won't change. That's what Mook was talking about.

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Post Posted September 15th, 2004, 1:16 pm

bump

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Post Posted September 18th, 2004, 8:41 pm

I don't think that moox has done anything with reviving GCC builds lately. We talked about this a while ago as I was interested in seeing if I could get the linkage to work by messing around with some assembler code but this was predicated on me being able to get a GCC build. I ran into problems trying to do a vanilla build and gave up on it and was hoping that someone else could get GCC working enough to get a build.

At the moment, there's more interest in MSVC++ 2005 as it does a better job with SSE and SSE2 optimization than 2003 does. I haven't been able to get this to work but others have.
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Post Posted September 20th, 2004, 10:54 am

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it about 50/50 for GCC at one time?

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Post Posted September 20th, 2004, 11:36 am

sasquatch wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it about 50/50 for GCC at one time?

Yes, but the majority of those who were using GCC have stopped building or migrated to MSVC++. My guess is that it is easier to make optimized builds that will work across more platforms under MSVC++ than simply making a bunch of highly specialized builds for each platform under GCC. I have been toying with it again and if I produce anything useful I will announce it.

Plus, Java support under MSVC++ - GCC simply does not have that!

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Post Posted September 20th, 2004, 12:09 pm

Well, that said, where can one find the latest directions on "How to Build"?

Thanks.

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Post Posted September 20th, 2004, 1:30 pm

sasquatch wrote:Well, that said, where can one find the latest directions on "How to Build"?

Thanks.

The official take:
http://www.mozilla.org/build/win32.html

These destructions are more or less the 'standard' when it comes to GCC:
http://gemal.dk/mozilla/build.html

'Nother good thread:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... ight=mingw

Ditto:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=19875

Ditto:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... mize+mingw

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Interesting reference:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... ight=mingw

Ditto:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... ight=mingw

Ditto:
http://daihard.home.comcast.net/firefox/index.html

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Post Posted September 20th, 2004, 5:40 pm

Yeah. The Java support was the reason for me to migrate from GCC to VC, too.
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Post Posted January 13th, 2005, 10:49 am

Many of those instructions are or were outdated. Moox, have you done any further 3dNow! optimizing?

M1 or M2?

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