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Peter(6)

Posts: 11493Joined: September 4th, 2003, 1:26 amLocation: Maassluis, The Netherlands
April 6th, 2006, 9:24 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:24 am
Cairo specific bugs should be filed with:
Product: Core / Component: GFX:Thebes / Status Whiteboard: cairo
CC: vladimir(at)pobox.com and pavlov(at)pavlov.net
The Official Win32 ..... builds are out , RSS feed.
IRC channels: #firefox || #spreadfirefox || #bugs
The Official Win32 20060407 [Trunk] build is out. (Cairo build)
Previous nightly 20060406 Trunk (Cairo build)
Hourly Trunk builds:
PROMETHEUS (Lin) || CADENCE (Mac) || PACIFICA (Win) || Trunk Tinderbox
ARGO (Lin-Cairo) || COLUMBIA (Mac-Cairo) || GAIUS (Win-Cairo) || Cairo Trunk Tinderbox
Trunk Bonsai
Last update: 2006-04-07 -- 05:20 PDT = 12:20 UTC (all check-ins since the latest nightly included)
Resolved Fixed:
- #228920[Core:Editor]-Unable to Paste Single Cell Data From Excel into HTML Compose [All]
- #314529[Core:JavaScript Engine]-E4X: delete operator misses some descendants - e4x/Types/9.1.1.3.js [All]
- #321650[Firefox:Software Update]-error in bsdiff makefile results in compile error of mbsdiff [Win]
- #324967[Core:GFX: Thebes]-Black stripes and delay while scrolling in Cairo [All]
- #325257[Firefox:Places]-Rename nsIFormHistory to avoid changing interfaces [All]
- #325526[Core:JavaScript Engine]-XML: Shared AnyName prototype object causes threads to block [Win]
- #327534[Core:JavaScript Engine]-uneval on E4X gives "Error: xml is not a function" [Mac]
- #328790[Toolkit:Storage]-main thread never joins with async-io thread [All]
- #329156[Firefox:Software Update]-Updater should fail rather than report success when update.manifest is empty [All]
- #329758[Core:SVG]-changing markers via DOM does not cause a refresh [All]
- #330063[Firefox:Places]-Live Bookmarks, can't edit feed properties/ rename feed. [Win]
- #330319[Core:JavaScript Engine]-Remove duplicate string constants in jsnum.c [All]
- #330528[Firefox:Build Config]-
bump Firefox version on trunk to 3.0a1 [All] - #330842[Firefox:Search]-"ASSERT: Can't serialize: file doesn't exist!" at startup [Lin]
- #331482[Core:HTML: Parser]-Wrong line number reported in js console, with textarea in page [All]
- #331782[Core:JavaScript Engine]-js_GetAnyName needs to root qn across call to js_NewObject [Lin]
- #332239[Core:XML]-Saved xml content gives xml parsing error in this case [Win]
- #332640[Core:DOM: Level 0]-screen object doesn't work if docshell has no content viewer [All]
- #332704[Core:GFX: Mac]-divide by zero crash on intel mac with universal build when viewing SVG app [Mac]
- #332743[Core:GFX: Thebes]-Add types to thebes surfaces [All]
- #332908[Core:XPCOM]-nsUUIDGenerator should use CFUUIDCreate on OS X [Mac]
- #332960[Core:XForms]-Too many schema-validation warnings [All]
- #333088[Core:Widget: Cocoa]-no menu bar on app startup until a window becomes main [Mac]
Partial Landings/WIPs/Incoming: - #47852[Core:DOM: Core]-NAMESPACE_ERR not being thrown when setting Node.prefix [All]
- #313309[Core:XPCOM]-Provide table-driven QI mechanism [All]
- #333049[Core:Preferences: Backend]-Locking a complex preferences doesn't work properly [All]
- #162361[Core:Internationalization]-Unicode file i/o in XPCOM/IO (cannot open files whose names contain characters outside the current locale: e.g. Japanese/Chinese on French Windows) [Win]
- #264716[Firefox:General]-For some sites the popup warning doesn't let you show the popup that was blocked [Win]
- #312793[Core:XP Miscellany]-Support DBUS and listen to NetworkManager events [Lin]
- #314985[Core:XSLT]-Named template stops recursing, output incomplete [Win]
- #327246[Core:DOM]-[FIX]Make sure nsNodeInfoManagers always have a principal [Lin]
- #328116[Core:GFX: Thebes]-Implement Cairo-on-OSX for Thebes gfx [Mac]
- #328926[Core:Layout]-Remove aPresContext parameters from Frame methods [All]
- #328479[Core:JavaScript Engine]-Building the jsshell on VC++ 6 fails because jsautokw.h is missing [Win]
- #330084[Core:DOM]-Crash in [@ nsGenericElement::doReplaceOrInsertBefore] [Win]
- #330095[Core:GFX]-SVG text with rotation matrix drawn twice in wrong location [Win]
- #330170[Core:XP Toolkit/Widgets: Trees]-crash in history tab of Side bar [@ nsXULTreeBuilder::CycleHeader] [Win]
- #330999[Core:Widget: Mac]-Mac doesn't call nsIRollupListener::ShouldRollupOnMouseWheelEvent [Mac]
- #331222[Firefox:Search]-context menu search does not observe browser.tabs.loadInBackground setting; always opens in foreground [All]
- #332050[NSS:Build]-Mac OS X cross/universal build is broken in NSS [Mac]
- #332155[Core:DOM]-nsIContent docs aren't current [Win]
- #332701[Core:Layout]-build fails in nsDocumentViewer.cpp due to unguarded use of SetUseAltDC if NS_PRINT_PREVIEW undefined [Lin]
Regressions/Annoying/Common bugs: - #302348[Firefox:Software Update]-Update fails partial update and then hangs when update not in FTP mirrors yet [All]
- #308678[Core:JavaScript Engine]-Trunk Crash in Browser and MailNews [@ js_NewGCThing] [All]
- #315699[Firefox:General]-Auto-login Cookies not always working [Win]
- #323407[Firefox:History]-Back button sometimes doesn't work [All]
- #324819[Core:Layout]-Fixed positioned elements now lag/flicker when scrolling (regression from bug 317375) [Win]
- #324961[Firefox:Bookmarks]-live bookmark is shown in UTF8 even if should be ISO-8859-1 [Win]
- #324963[Core:Layout]-Menu highlight is broken/doesn't show up/not painted [Win]
- #327140[AUS:Systems]-Partial update generation failing [All]
- #328428[Core:GFX: Thebes]-random crash while browsing [@ ntdll.dll] [Win2k]
- #329237[Firefox:Installer]-Firefox uninstaller fails on VC8 cairo builds (R6034 C runtime library) [Win][/b]
- #332088[Firefox:Software Update]-Updater tries to update a DLL it uses itself. (msvcr80.dll) [Win]
- #332873[Firefox:Places]-Dragging to a folder item in places fails (bookmarks are lost) [All]
- Memory leaks: list of known issues
- THEBES (Cairo):list of open bugs
- PLACES:list of open bugs
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Trunk fixes since branching for 1.5 (20050812) = ~ 3091
Last edited by Peter(6) on April 7th, 2006, 5:29 am, edited 18 times in total.
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mrtech

Posts: 2000Joined: May 15th, 2003, 7:46 amLocation: New York
April 6th, 2006, 9:25 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:25 am
psl wrote:Just a quick question, does anyone know if cairo performance is significantly lower the the builds with out cairo? Also right know are there any advantages to using the cairo builds execpt for testing? Thanks
I've been wondering this myself, what are the true user benefits to cairo? smaller footprint disk? memory? faster rendering? better printing? can anyone point to something tangible, even if it's developer specific, thanks.
Peter(6)

Posts: 11493Joined: September 4th, 2003, 1:26 amLocation: Maassluis, The Netherlands
April 6th, 2006, 9:26 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:26 am
from yesterday: 0live wrote:Build is out =)
I know, I just don't have the time to update any earlier.
nightly build threads since 20040225, firefox 0.8.0+
pal-moz
Posts: 3063Joined: September 23rd, 2005, 5:40 pmLocation: Tokyo , Japan
April 6th, 2006, 9:42 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:42 am
from yesterday thread :
drierdragon wrote:1. Embeded flash videos not loading I consider this is serious...because the web is going to this format inceasingly
maybe this bug.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325465
Harald.L
Posts: 185Joined: October 22nd, 2004, 12:36 amLocation: Bavaria/Germany
April 6th, 2006, 9:45 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:45 am
mrtech wrote:I've been wondering this myself, what are the true user benefits to cairo? smaller footprint disk? memory? faster rendering? better printing? can anyone point to something tangible, even if it's developer specific, thanks.
If I read it correctly, to use one unified graphics library on all platforms, before cairo there is a different graphics system on Windows than on Linux or others. It's tested on Windows only in the first time but I saw a checkin today to enable cairo on Linux, don't know if last daily linux build is already affected.
#323925[Core]-Change default toolkit on Unix to cairo-gtk2 [Lin]
Harald
toscha42

Posts: 429Joined: December 15th, 2005, 3:23 pmLocation: Munich
April 6th, 2006, 9:51 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 9:51 am
mrtech wrote:can anyone point to something tangible, even if it's developer specific, thanks.
You might find some more background information here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Cairo
Ciao
Toscha
Peter(6)

Posts: 11493Joined: September 4th, 2003, 1:26 amLocation: Maassluis, The Netherlands
April 6th, 2006, 10:02 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 10:02 am
from yesterday: drierdragon wrote:Cairo is linux friendly not windows( green coding in forums garbled)
Dream on, performance on Linux is supposed to be worse than on Win. drierdragon wrote:I like the bleeding edge but these two things are too serious to continue with deer park..... I miss the rendering of graphics in cairo .When will this go into branch builds????????
When this trunk branches for FF30... in 9 month time or so. Cairo will NOT be embedded in FF2.0.x
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mrtech

Posts: 2000Joined: May 15th, 2003, 7:46 amLocation: New York
April 6th, 2006, 10:14 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 10:14 am
toscha42 wrote:mrtech wrote:can anyone point to something tangible, even if it's developer specific, thanks.
You might find some more background information here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Cairo
Sweet, thanks. I know it's early in the development cycle for the following but here goes:
Does anyone have any metrics or measures on performance, rendering, dependency filesizing for current systems and the latest build releases? Is tinderbox testing and timing where this would be? I would just love to say "in the end when cairo is smoothed out, it will be xx% faster in ...", "firefox is xxx kb smaller" or "printing is perfect".
Is PDF output going to be an option for printing, etc?
mw
Posts: 2378Joined: November 19th, 2002, 5:37 pm
April 6th, 2006, 10:30 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 10:30 am
mrtech wrote:Does anyone have any metrics or measures on performance, rendering, dependency filesizing for current systems and the latest build releases? Is tinderbox testing and timing where this would be? I would just love to say "in the end when cairo is smoothed out, it will be xx% faster in ...", "firefox is xxx kb smaller" or "printing is perfect".
There are some bugs filed on Cairo's performance, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328367 and its dependancies.
Cairo builds are considerably slower for me than non-cairo builds.
Peter(6)

Posts: 11493Joined: September 4th, 2003, 1:26 amLocation: Maassluis, The Netherlands
April 6th, 2006, 10:55 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 10:55 am
mrtech wrote:Is PDF output going to be an option for printing, etc?
I think it's in the planning
nightly build threads since 20040225, firefox 0.8.0+
DopefishJustin
Posts: 90Joined: August 26th, 2004, 10:09 amLocation: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
April 6th, 2006, 11:01 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 11:01 am
As I understand it, the big advantage to Cairo is supposed to be that it will take advantage of hardware video acceleration to do things like antialiasing, rotation, etc., which would provide a significant speed boost where available (which is pretty much everywhere these days). I don't think any of that is implemented in FF yet though, they're just getting the framework in place.
There's also the advantage that Cairo is designed to be used in more projects than just Gecko/Firefox (for example, GTK+ uses it now), so we can benefit from fixes/improvements contributed by developers of those projects (and vice versa) rather than everyone having to reinvent the wheel.
Last edited by DopefishJustin on April 6th, 2006, 11:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
Michael K.

Posts: 220Joined: April 10th, 2005, 6:35 amLocation: The Netherlands
April 6th, 2006, 11:09 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 11:09 am
There hasn't been a lot of focus on performance yet, and I believe cairo itself is also still in an early stage and will gain faster performance in the future. So you can't really say anything about FX3.0's speed just yet. Here's a recent blog post on the subject (mostly comparing cairo to other software, but might still be of use to you).
chob
Posts: 4096Joined: May 17th, 2003, 12:05 pmLocation: London, UK
April 6th, 2006, 11:10 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 11:10 am
There's also a few blog entries from roc on the subject, which may or may not help you:
echoes

Posts: 835Joined: November 13th, 2005, 1:09 amLocation: Labyrinths of coral caves
April 6th, 2006, 11:22 am
Posted April 6th, 2006, 11:22 am
@Peter6
<del>did the bookmark dragging in places bug get finally fixed? i didn't see it in the changelog...</del>
nm, i checked bugzilla and it is fixed, but theres a related bug... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332873
Last edited by echoes on April 6th, 2006, 11:26 am, edited 2 times in total.
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