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mike18xx

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 12:33 pm

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Why is this sick, probably fraudulent, joke of an extension still hosted by Mozilla?

Has there *ever* been a case of a "do not call/email" list NOT being used as a handy one-stop-shopping spot for spammers? How does Blue Frog "make" spammers leave you alone? Am I suppose to believe that "cease and desist" rebound emails will thwart the dishonest, let alone witless open-proxy/relay servers hosting spambot trojans? Or do Blue Frog's $400/hr, fedora-clad lawyers hunt down spammers across the arctic wilderness of Siberia and blazing wastelands of Nigeria and smash their kneecaps with lead pipes? How does Blue Frog make money to pay these lawyers if its extension is free? How is Blue Frog able to afford running a centralized database of a half-million addresses, all of which consult Blue Frog every time they check their mail? Why does your amount of spam skyrocket within hours of installing Blue Frog -- even if you're applying it to a several-years-old for-public-use Yahoo! address which, theoretically, should already be receiving the maximum amount of spam that there is? Why does Blue Frog leave traces of itself all over your system when you de-install it?

Figure it out, suckers -- You've been *had*.

Spamming Mozilla extensions are, apparently, the wave of the near-future and present-now, so you'd better get used to it until Mozilla begins running a tighter ship.

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To delete Blue Frog *permanently* from Firefox, you MUST do the following:

0. Obtain and install Norton Windoctor or other registry sweeping program.
1. Write down all themes and extensions you have installed (except for Blue Frog).
1a. delete cache files; quit Firefox.
2. Find and trash all folders or objects with "Blue Frog" or "Blue Security" in their name.
2a. Find and trash all folders or objects with "bluemonkey" in their name.
3. Find C:\Documents and Settings\(abc)\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\(xyz).default
3a. backup passwords and bookmarks by copying Bookmarks.html, key3.db and signons.txt
3b. Zip, or copy entire profiles folder to another volume for safe-keeping.
3c. Delete C:\Documents and Settings\(abc)\Application Data\Mozilla\
4. Back up or Zip C:\Program Items\Mozilla Firefox
5. Delete Mozilla Firefox folder
6. Right-click/empty Recycle Bin. Right-click/empty Recycle Bin "protected files" (if any)
7. Run Norton Windoctor; let it chug until done, then "Repair All Problems".

8. Reinstall Firefox; quit Firefox.
8a. Copy back bookmarks and password files to new profiles folder
8b. Relaunch Firefox; download and reinstall all of your extensions and themes.

9. Don't assume that you don't need to do anything if you're ran Blue Frog on a Mac! Blue Frog pollutes Firefox's own "config" registries (viewable by typing in "about:config" in the address bar, then hitting return -- you'll observe Blue Frog garbage remaining after de-installing Blue Frog extensions).

This procedure will also clean out lingering traces of every other badly-written extensions which has left behind "lingering remnants" in Firefox's config registries, and will enable you to bypass various "won't update" errors (such as I experienced with the Custom Google and Mr Tech Local Install extensions, in which, after restart, old versions remained in-place).

-- Mike.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 12:52 pm

(bump after title-change)
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:21 pm

mike wrote:Why does Blue Frog leave traces of itself all over your system when you de-install it?
Although I agree that un-installing Blue Frog Anti Spam extension doesn't not remove all remnants of the extension, many extensions don't un-install cleanly; it's a fact of life with almost all software.

IMHO, you went overboard with your efforts! Opening the prefs.js file and removing the left-overs would have sufficed.

Or creating a new Profile and then migrating specific files from the old Profile, before deleting it.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:36 pm

Creating a new profile doesn't flush EVERYTHING, which is exactly what you want to do when you have no idea what's clinging under the rim where the brush can't reach it. And, even if it does work, you'll still have an old profile folder littering your drive -- granted, you could delete the thing, but if you're competent enough to be rooting around in Application Data folders, you're competent enough to do a complete rebuild, and it only takes a few extra minutes to download and install fresh extensions.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:39 pm

Just use the uninstall it then edit the pref.js file deleting any references to it.

Open your Programs directory and delete the now empty Blue Frog folder.

There really isn't a lot of leftover junk, at least no more than any other extension.

Your directions are way overboard.

Please don't recommend people use Nortons to clean and fix their system, unless you want to help them fix all of the problems it creates along the way.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:42 pm

BCGray1 wrote:TJust a side note the files in Firefox config placed by Blue Frog are called bluemonkey
Thanks; I've updated my procedures list with a 2a addition.
duh you think they knew what they were doing to start with
My personal hunch is that Blue Frog is nothing but a collection of professional spammers operating under a front. A real "security" organization couldn't possibly be so stupid as to believe that a do-not-spam list could possibly work -- it's like mailing Al Qaeda the GPS coordinates of all your tallest buildings and requesting that they not be bombed.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:50 pm

craigevil wrote:Your directions are way overboard.
"Overboard" is just another way of saying "comprehensive".
Please don't recommend people use Nortons to clean and fix their system, unless you want to help them fix all of the problems it creates along the way.
Point taken. For those who don't want to deal with more recent (and, some say, worse) versions of Norton throwing garbage everywhere, and just enjoy the benefits of Norton Windoctor (which is a cannot live without utility, IMO), do this:

------(cut n paste from a file I occasionally send my relatives when they email me with problems)-----

Finding the last "good" version of Norton Utilities:

(Finding instructions removed after complaints.)

B. Installing WinDoctor:

1. Extract the files.
2. De-install Norton Anti-Virus is you have it (it's garbage anyway, IMO).
3. Restart into safe-boot mode (F8 while starting in XP)
4. Do a search for, and delete, all folders with the word "symantec" in them.
5. Delete any "Norton" folders in the Program Items folder.
6. -- now run the NUSetup.exe file in Norton Utilities install folder.
7. Select "Custom" setup, then continue or next.
8. Scroll down and UNcheck the "system information" box, then continue or next.
9. Skip automatic update.
10. Skip registration.
11. Restart when done.
12. Now, with internet hooked up, Start > All Programs > Norton > Live Update. (update)
13 Right-click the recycle-bin, and set it so Norton Protection doesn't reserve so much of the hard-drive.
15. Find the WinDoctor file inside Program Items/Norton Uilities, and make a "shortcut" alias for the desktop
15. Run the bugger often.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 1:57 pm

Telling people how to obtain pirated software is against this forums rules, indeed it is against most if not all forums' rules. Correct me if I am wrong, but if there is a free version of Norton then post the site it is available from. I still would recommend against using Norton. It causes more problems than it fixes.

There are many free programs that do the same thing and they are not illegal to obtain.

Using something like Windr to remove traces of an extensions is just crazy. None that I have seen including Blue Frog leave much behind that can't be taken care of by a simple file edit.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 2:02 pm

Who votes we make a list of all bad/fake extensions?
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 2:09 pm

craigevil wrote:Using something like Windr to remove traces of an extensions is just crazy.
See the word "comprehensive" above? This is comprehensive.
None that I have seen including Blue Frog leave much behind that can't be taken care of by a simple file edit.
Install Your Undelete! (which lets you watch, and logs), and you'll be absolutely floored by how much crap garbageware leaves behind after it allegedly "uninstalls". File edit? Ha! Like folks are even going to know *what* to edit in the first place. There's no single file edit which will remove all the stuff Blue sprinkles everywhere.

Regards Windoc 2002; it's a pre-Symantec buy-out version, and it's the best goddamn thing since sliced bread.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 3:05 pm

(Mirroring comments)

What do you base this (increase spam ten-fold) claim on?
Experience.

I installed it on a BRAND-SPANKING NEW Gmail account which had been "alive" for two weeks, but never used, and was bombarded within hours, and it didn't let up for two weeks after a complete clean-out. I installed it on a many-years-old Yahoo! address (which gets about a fifty spams a day, nearly all of which Yahoo! auto-filters into the "bulk" folder), and was immediately bombarded with over a dozen spams a day which Yahoo! auto-filters did NOT sort into the bulk folder.

Regards the last, my impression is that Blue Frog is a "test-bed" for examining what is and is not able to get past Yahoo! and Gmail auto-filters.

(Elsewhere, I note that Blue Frog hijacks your gmail and yahoo mail sig files in order to spam itself.)

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 4:01 pm

mike18xx: How do we know that you are not just an angry spammer? Like the once that we can read about here: http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3011

From my point of view you are just trying to scare people. I've read about Bluesecurity and Bluefrog on digg.com and I havn't read about anyone more that the spammers that are angry about Bluesecurity.

Some moderator could please remove the post about pirating Norton.
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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 4:12 pm

If Bluefrog have 500000 member one would think that someone more that you would have this problem?

And if Bluefrog really is an software for them to collect emailaddresses and not an antispam tool. Why are spammers mad about what they are doing?

I my self added my gmail address to the Bluesecurity database for 3-4 days. And I get the same amout of spam as before

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 4:34 pm

How do we know that you are not just an angry spammer?
If you cite any evidence to the effect that Blue Frog actually stops rather than instigates spam (rather than *confirming* that it's utterly useless at best), then you'll have a logically-premised foundation upon which to proceed to the conclusion that any spammers out there might be inconvenienced enough to be "angry" about it -- such a conclusion then being a premise to further surmise that a Blue Frog critic in these forums would be an "angry spammer". (This is all assumes, of course, that ANY spammer is actually capable of knowing how much of their spam is actually received in the first place, given that virtually all of it, these days, is sent via trojan re-mailers hosted on infected open-servers.)

No, the only "angry" people I've run into lately concerning this issue are those who are defensive of Blue Frog: They want to impugn the integrity of Blue Frog's detractors. They pretend that the person they're talking to is the only one having problems, when the forums are positively littered with commentary regarding the craptacularity of Blue Frog.
I my self added my gmail address to the Bluesecurity database for 3-4 days. And I get the same amout of spam as before
Well then! How wonderful! I suggest that interested readers of these exchanges contrast your assertion of receiving "the same amount of spam as before" (ie., Blue Frog ain't workin fer shizzit) with my "increased ten-fold" assertion, and average a chance they'll receive five times their current spam-load if they install Blue Frog.

Yes, that would be quite satisfactory.

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Post Posted May 9th, 2006, 4:43 pm

mike18xx wrote:They pretend that the person they're talking to is the only one having problems, when the forums are positively littered with commentary regarding the craptacularity of Blue Frog.
If there is so many people that have problem with BlueFrog. Could you post some links?

mike18xx wrote:I suggest that interested readers of these exchanges contrast your assertion of receiving "the same amount of spam as before" (ie., Blue Frog ain't workin fer shizzit)

I haven't installed the BlueFrog extension so it can't do anything. But they have my mailadress so they can spam me if they want to.

I'm not saying you are wrong. It just feel strange for me that no one in the big threads on digg.com for example have said anything.

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