addons.mozilla.org recent and open issues
December 18th, 2006, 11:04 am
This topic is in constant evolution so the info might be enriched each day. Your collaboration is a key part on that.
The purpose of this thread is to make people aware of some tactics used in extensions considered by some people not worthy of the AMO (addons.mozilla.org) "trust" seal. It has also the purpose of discussing the AMO quality standards and the views on these and other extensions that might be considered harmful for common non-tech-savvy users. At the end of September meatus brought to light to the mozillaZine community the actions made by a set of extensions build upon the same code base. Those extensions were collecting data and uniquely identifying users without notifying them. This caused some stir into the community as most of the people thought that AMO had a high quality standard and sought to protect users from such tactics, things that we realized weren't true. AMO doesn't even have a policy for extension submitting. After that a lot of discussion was done (you can read the full thread here). Some people treating them as Spyware and some others saying they weren't doing anything wrong. The AMO stand on this was mostly ignoring it. The issue picked up more heat when the developers submitting these extensions started to systematically abuse the system because of an AMO code bug (we can't call it a real bug but AMO put too much trust into developers). They started to bump their extensions into a daily basis effectively hijacking the AMO newest listing. This brought more people concerned about the issue and made some, like me, start a deep review of an extension's inners as well as learning about all the facts about them. The findings are posted at the old thread. RenegadeX posted a complaint into Remora (the next iteration of AMO codebase) Idea Dump that is a page for discussing/proposing changes for this new AMO revision. A list of the extensions being driven by Conduit (used to be named "Effective Brand") code was made and is attached next to this introduction. Conduit offers simple template-built toolbar extensions for Firefox which can be made in a matter of minutes by anyone - no programming know-how required. With this service they can build a tool integrated into Mozilla and related to an already existing community (as they state). Some people say this is a benefit for people and some say they don't serve any useful purpose. AMO doesn't judge the usefulness of an extension. What we really know is the point of view of some toolbar creators. This view is shared among toolbar makers in Conduit support/discussion forum. The dissatisfaction with AMO admins was growing larger as they weren't doing anything to stop the mess, and some heated accusations were issued. To cut down the rage and start moving forward we started to fill bug reports for the extensions that still weren't warning users about data collection. A policy draft was posted and a talk back page linked so the community can help build the AMO extension policy. A description of an improved review process for extensions to be added to Remora was also posted at a personal blog. fligtar, an AMO developer and admin, was the one posting at the original thread as a spokesperson for AMO. Regretfully, there weren't further comments by AMO admins and fligtar told the community that they wouldn't be participating anymore in the thread, ostensibly because of some abusive comments. They said they would use a blog for further communication with the community, but until today is still empty. There was also no feedback in the talk back page for the AMO policy. These things effectively cut down the nexus between the community and the people administering the addons site. JohnM555 posted a Greasemonkey user script that hides these toolbars from AMO. A solution for people that really hate to see them listed at AMO. These extensions' developers are still abusing AMO by listing them in lot of unrelated categories, so while browsing security you see extensions that don't have security as their main focus or specialty. There will be a limit (not yet decided) for the number of categories an extension can advertise into, but that will see the light with Remora that has no set release date. List of extensions (93 extensions, updated to November 26) Abandonia Toolbar by SupSuper: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 All Yours Chat Toolbar by Admin: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Anderson Tech Club Toolbar by Kuru Oujou: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Atom-Sounds Toolbar by Atom Sounds: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Australia-Radio Toolbar by Joni: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 BBC Bar by Adams: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 4, 2006 Bibirmer Toolbar by David Gordon: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 9, 2006 BobDawgs Pad Toolbar by Robert LaFont, Jr: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 BX Toolbar by Shaggy Software: Version 1.0.1.26, released on Oct 3, 2006 CaresforKids Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 25, 2006 Casino Free Money Toolbar by Sergiy Zapisniy: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 15, 2006 Celebs Toolbar by ToolooT Promotions: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 10, 2006 Cengoo.de Toolbar by dersimli: Version 1.0.1.25, released on Sep 28, 2006 CGToolbar by amit: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 23, 2006 Cowgirl Image Toolbar by Cowgirl Image: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 15, 2006 Cowgirl Model Toolbar by Cowgirl Model: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 10, 2006 Dating & Personals Toolbar by Nancy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 9, 2006 Deutschland Radio by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 13, 2006 digg.com extension Toolbar by Gareth Poole: Version 1.0.1.28, released on Oct 21, 2006 DVDEmpire Toolbar by Erik Truby: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 12, 2006 EMail_Notifier Toolbar by Shay Refaely: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 7, 2006 ezPharmacyFinder Toolbar by Stuart: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Forecaster by Arvi: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 1, 2006 Free The Dog Toolbar by FreeTheDog: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 24, 2006 GameSpot Deluxe Toolbar by CorporatBologna: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 GAVSGUIDANCE HELPER Toolbar by Gavin Davies: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 13, 2006 Grigor's_Blog Toolbar by Gregory: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 13, 2006 H2Press Toolbar by Mike Riess: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 13, 2006 Holy Land Radio by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 HOT-IL Toolbar by Shay Refaely: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 27, 2006 HotWildMisty Toolbar by Hot Wild Misty: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 iasec Toolbar by gerald: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 26, 2006 Indian Radio ToolY Toolbar by Arpit Arora: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 13, 2006 international football Toolbar by steve: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 11, 2006 isr Toolbar by Sharon Steiman: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 Israel Radio (Hebrew Version) by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 Israel Radio by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 Jazz Radio by yotam mazar: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 krenar Toolbar by krenar: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 MailMan by Adams: Version 2.0, released on Nov 7, 2006 marvz14 Toolbar by Marvin: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Michad Computer Consulting Toolbar by Wolf Windshadow: Version 1.0.1.28, released on Oct 30, 2006 MikeAndPetra Toolbar by Petra Richardson: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 MillBar Toolbar by Pelle: Version 1.0.1.14, released on May 12, 2006 Mojabosna Toolbar by Ado: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 12, 2006 Movie Toolbar by Guy Malachi: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 21, 2006 My Informational Toolbar by John: Version 1.0.1.14, released on May 14, 2006 myCampusDates Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 25, 2006 myDirtyDates Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 25, 2006 myMatchDates Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 25, 2006 MyOrkut Toolbar by Arvi: Version 1.0.2.28, released on Nov 1, 2006 myVegasBets Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 21, 2006 Nederland Radio by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 neoaddict Toolbar by Brian: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 26, 2006 NewYork Radio Addon by Ronen Chen: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Oct 31, 2006 Nifty Gifts Toolbar by Tyler Munder: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 night life Toolbar by ToolooT Promotions: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 10, 2006 Online Games Toolbar by Guy Malachi: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 Online Video by Shay Refaely: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 7, 2006 Partnerprogramme Toolbar by Karsten Windfelder: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 PartyPokerBar Toolbar by Richard gold: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 9, 2006 Podcast Search Toolbar by Alex: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 10, 2006 Poker Bar Toolbar by Richard gold: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 16, 2006 profadi Toolbar by Radarette O'Reilly: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 13, 2006 Radio & Gobierno de Puerto Rico - ApoyoTecnico.Com by Magallanes: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 8, 2006 Radio DE Toolbar by dersimli: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 27, 2006 Radio Denmark Toolbar by Ehud Z.: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 12, 2006 Radio Russia by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 Radio UK by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 10, 2006 RadioMan by Arvi: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 ralphtips Toolbar by Amer: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Reel New Media Toolbar by Roula Eatrides: Version 1.0.1.27, released on Oct 12, 2006 Runescape Toolbar by Chris Cunliffe: Version 1.0.1.21, released on Aug 12, 2006 ServMap Toolbar by ServMap: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 19, 2006 SETI-HOME Toolbar by Sharon Steiman: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 SK Software Toolbar by SK Software: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 13, 2006 SparkleBox Toolbar by SparkleBox Teacher Resources: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 Subliminal Directions Toolbar by Subliminal Directions: Version 1.0.1.28, released on Oct 20, 2006 Tbtoyl Toolbar by Massimo DAmico: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 22, 2006 Telliss Toolbar by Terry Ballantini: Version 1.0.1.20, released on Jul 25, 2006 The Fuller Brush Place Toolbar by LadyPzaz: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 1, 2006 Torrent Search by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 13, 2006 Torrent-Bar Toolbar by Joni: Version 1.0.1.30, released on Nov 14, 2006 torrentools Toolbar by Francesco Passantino: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 27, 2006 trovando Toolbar by Francesco Passantino: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 27, 2006 Turkije.Org Toolbar by Turkije.org: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 12, 2006 webpedia Toolbar by Francesco Passantino: Version 1.0.1.24, released on Sep 27, 2006 Wikipedia Toolbar by Arvi: Version 1.0.2.28, released on Nov 1, 2006 WineZap Toolbar by Enos: Version 1.0.1.18, released on Jun 27, 2006 Worldgroups Toolbar by Playful: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 Ynet News RSS (Hebrew Version) by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.17, released on May 31, 2006 Ynet RSS English by Guy Levy: Version 1.0.1.29, released on Nov 3, 2006 YOUTHERE1.com's Toolbar by YOUTHERE1.com: Version 1.0.1.19, released on Jul 10, 2006 NOTE: if you find one not listed here please tell me so and also, if there is one listed that isn't related to the issue please tell me so I can remove it and I give the developer my advanced apology for including it. Last edited by DonGato on December 19th, 2006, 2:55 am, edited 4 times in total.
December 18th, 2006, 11:18 am
EDIT: good stuff - DonGato has addressed my comments from the last post of the original thread right before it was locked.
Last edited by RenegadeX on December 18th, 2006, 11:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
December 18th, 2006, 11:25 am
Well, updated with all your comments.
1. Removed the reference to November as the issue was always active as you said. 2. Fixed that wording about developer ignorant. 3. Linked the analysis as it doesn't provide a value similar to the space it waste. Anyway, I think that it proves they uniquely identify users, thing they were denying before (not now). Thanks for the help.
December 18th, 2006, 12:47 pm
Any chance of stickyfying this. The list posted above will be useful to use a guide and also to refer posters to. Cheers.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -Albert Einstein
Please DO NOT PM me for support... Lets keep it on the board, so we can all learn.
December 18th, 2006, 2:32 pm
Great post DonGato, thanks
December 18th, 2006, 2:41 pm
Good idea The original thread has been watched with interest and I'm very pleased to see THIS one. Good work DonGato et al.
December 18th, 2006, 5:14 pm
You should thank all the people that voiced their opinion and helped make a case about this issue.
I think that having it as a sticky would be a good choice to remind AMO admins that the concerns weren't handled yet.
December 18th, 2006, 5:16 pm
thanks DonGato
i also vote for this being a proper Sticky.
December 18th, 2006, 8:17 pm
Forward it to the Newsgroups.
It might get the attention of the higher ups that don't read Mozillazine forums.
December 18th, 2006, 9:47 pm
Well, maybe this addition to the summary would help know the real intention behind these toolbars: http://www.make-money-toolbar.com/
It's not helping users as most extensions and theme developers do, but plain and simple making money.
December 18th, 2006, 11:45 pm
Wow^straight from the horses mouth! Worth adding I would say.....a perfect summary.....summary. $650 a day!...not bad.
We're home, we're drawn like....perverted moths.
Jeff.. Coupling.
December 18th, 2006, 11:50 pm
Thank you so much DonGato. Great post. I was part of the old thread and I share your concern and I hope this is made a sticky.
December 19th, 2006, 6:19 am
omg... that link should be spreaded around in the guy's toolbar comments at AMO. so now we have evidence of profit being made using mozilla.org hosting resources. they should get a piece of the pie I saved the text where he explains his scam, just in case he changes the page. +1 sticky
December 19th, 2006, 8:30 am
What's all this talk about a Sticky? You want a Sticky? You'll get a Sticky.
December 19th, 2006, 12:28 pm
Curiously enough, www.conduit.com was renewed past 26 June, and www.make-money-toolbar.com was renewed 29 June. Both are Israel based, and both were renewed close in time.
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